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I just read a Mustang And Fords article; www.mustangandfords.com/techarticles/15999 and it states that some 427's were put in 69 Mustangs. Is that correct? If so, how many? Everything I had read said that the 67 Shelby was the only Mustang to come from the factory with a 427. I know the Ford engine codes have a W code 427 listed for Mustangs but thought that none had been installed. I know that some were installed in 68 Cougars. I have seen two of these. Anybody with documented proof information would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
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One thing to remember about that magazine: Never, ever, believe what's printed in there is the truth. They print more disinformation than the Ford reference books. Were there ever 427's installed in Stangs by Ford? More than likely a few were. Dealer installations? Yea, there were more than a few. Installs by their owners? Lots, myself included. ANYONE who says Ford NEVER installed a 427 in a Stang is a FOOL. ( there's at least one of these that posts regularly on the Ford FE bigblock forum on Network54 and thinks he's some kind of Guru cause he owns a few 427's, LOL ) When it comes to what Ford did and didn't do when it comes to stuff like this, "Never say Never"
 

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He's right!


(and probably soaked by Katrina by now!)
 
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chepsk8 said:
He's right!


(and probably soaked by Katrina by now!)
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Not soaked, I'm lucky to be on the far western fringe of the storm. We just have a light breeze and a bit of rain ( but not as much rain as my yard needs ) Gonna have to keep the sprinklers on the yard still. But I did go thru Lilly three years back and Andrew 14 years ago, and they were no picnic.
 

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Glad to hear you are safe!
 
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Glad to hear you are safe!
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Speaking of being soaked------- based on what these things have done in the past, you're likely to get a better soaking than I have Get ready, cause she's on the way up there now.
 

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Here is a little trivia I just stumbled accross:

1968: The 302-cid V-8 replaces the "289" midyear, and a medium-riser version of Ford's premier race engine, the 427-cid V-8 (rated at 390 hp), is offered as a $622 option. On April 1st, the 428 Cobra Jet engine is introduced as part of an option package aimed at enthusiasts.
 

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I can't say I've seen one. Part of me wants to say that they either didn't AS A RULE, or it wasn't a "public option", and another part of me wants to say "yeah, they did."

If they DID, they're rare.

HOWEVER, the 427 WAS on option in '65. LOL! Do some research . Some factory coupes DID get them.
 
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I'm not saying or implying that Ford never put a 427 in a Mustang running down the assembly line. I don't know but would like to know. Yes, anything is possible but does anybody know of a documented Mustang with a 427? I really hope that there are some. I know I would love to see one. When I said that everything that I had read said that Mustangs (with the exception of a few Shelbys) never had a 427 were magazine articles. In this case I really hope that the writer is correct.


I have seen mistakes in that magazine before too. I think it was by the same writer that said a 289 hi-po block was in a c-code Mustang. He gave the casting numbers and they were like all other casting numbers to me. In a later issue he backed up and said he had made a mistake.
 

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I can't say I've seen one. Part of me wants to say that they either didn't AS A RULE, or it wasn't a "public option", and another part of me wants to say "yeah, they did."

If they DID, they're rare.

HOWEVER, the 427 WAS on option in '65. LOL! Do some research . Some factory coupes DID get them.
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While I also never say never, I don't think Ford put a 427 in anything officially in 1969. I think they were out of em, and 428s were everywhere. Could a backstock 427 have been installed in place of a 428? Maybe... They sure didn't have an engine code for it.

As far as 427s going into 65 coupes, I assume you mean Mustangs, and I am wondering how they did that, as the engine doesn't fit the bay.
 

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As far as 427s going into 65 coupes, I assume you mean Mustangs, and I am wondering how they did that, as the engine doesn't fit the bay.
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They made about 10 with the 427 sans most every other part of the car. It was strictly for drag racing but HAD to officially be a factory option to make them legal. I THINK (think mind you! ) they went to the Gas Rhonda team. Could be wrong . . .
 

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They made about 10 with the 427 sans most every other part of the car. It was strictly for drag racing but HAD to officially be a factory option to make them legal. I THINK (think mind you! ) they went to the Gas Rhonda team. Could be wrong . . .
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Don't confuse Fairlane Thunderbolts with mustangs, while there were some 'altered' mustangs dragging they were not factory optioned according to all the crap I just read on the "internet" so you can take that for its worth

Perhaps someone is a better googler than I though

Some good photos of cammer's in action
http://www.clubcobra.com/t40595.html
 

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I didn't. They made more than 10 thunderbolts .
 
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In 1968 you could get the 427 in a GTE Cougar, and later that year they came out with the 428's I'd post a picture but the file needs to 78 kb and its too small! :damnit:
 

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Don't confuse Fairlane Thunderbolts with mustangs, while there were some 'altered' mustangs dragging they were not factory optioned according to all the crap I just read on the "internet" so you can take that for its worth

Perhaps someone is a better googler than I though

Some good photos of cammer's in action
http://www.clubcobra.com/t40595.html
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From everything I've ever read, I have to agree with Dodgestang. I've never seen anything about a 427 in a '65 Stang other than the factory "altered" drag specific cars that went out to some of the big-time race teams back then.

Insofar as a 427 in a '69 Stang from the factory, I've always understood that the only 427 cars were Shelby's and that there are only a handful of these cars that anyone knows the whereabouts of today. Anything is possible when it comes to these cars, however.
 
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