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5.0 Swap Doesn't Want To Run

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Teddy Naegele

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As I am a Diehard mustang and Ford fan, I chose to install a 5.0 into my Jeep Wrangler. I have a standalone painless harness and everything for a 93 5.0 except the mass air flow sensor for that specific year. everything is hooked up except the EGR.

It floods almost immediately on initial startup and then dies. If I disconnect the wire going to the fuel pump it will then start and run fine until it either runs out of gas or I tap the fuel pump wires together for a split second. fuel pressure is exactly correct and fuel pressure regulator is working fine.

The MAF I have is for a 96 Bronco because that is what I started with. I bought a BBK for that application and 24 lb injectors. the MAF is calibrated for the injectors. I have swapped the original injectors back in with the stock MAF and it does the same thing. Is there a difference in MAF's between years?

As far as I know that is the only thing different from the 1993 setup. every sensor is brand new. the distributor and coil are brand new. the computer is brand new. IAC and TPS are new. Engine is freshly built.

Please help me with any ideas you can.

Teddy
 
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If i understand your problem it kinda sounds like your injector duty cycle is off/to high. I belive the computer gets the injector pulse from a sensor inside the dizzy. Might be something to look into. Or maybe you have a leaky Injector or seal or something.
 

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Do you have a way to dump codes?
 

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Dump the codes: Codes may be present even if the Check Engine Light (CEL) isn't on. Your aftermarket harness should have the same diagnostic connector as the OEM Mustang. If it doesn't, then contact the vendor.

Dumping the computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

Revised 26-July-2011. Added need to make sure the clutch is pressed when dumping codes.

Codes may be present even if the check engine light hasn’t come on, so be sure to check for them.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Post the codes you get and I will post 86-93 model 5.0 Mustang specific code definitions and fixes. I do not have a complete listing for 94-95 model 5.0 Mustangs at this time.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. On a manual transmission car, be sure to press the clutch to the floor.
Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.





If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems. This is crucial: the same wire that provides the ground to dump the codes provides signal ground for the TPS, EGR, ACT and Map/Baro sensors. If it fails, you will have poor performance, economy and driveablity problems

Some codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off, and clutch (if present) is pressed to the floor, and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Your 86-88 5.0 won't have a working Check Engine Light, so you'll need a test light.
See AutoZone Part Number: 25886 , $10




Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see www.midwayautosupply.com/Equus-Digital-Ford-Code-Reader/dp/B000EW0KHW Equus - Digital Ford Code Reader (3145It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $22-$36.
 
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