620's coming unseated

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65intex

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I know I read of this condition in a past thread I just cant find it now. I recently installed some 620 springs and they raised the front end up way to high. After removing the springs cutting a 1/4 of the coil at a time I finally had the right stance, total of 1/2 coil cut?? Now when I raise the front of the car to where the wheels are off the ground the springs come unseated at the top of the shock towers. It is easy to get them back in place with bungee cords when lowering the car back down but is there a permanent fix for this problem?

 

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No shocks in the car yet? They serve to limit travel and should keep this from happening.

 

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66HertzClone said:

No shocks in the car yet? They serve to limit travel and should keep this from happening.

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Not with the car jacked up. The UCA will drop to its limit and that is when his spring falls out.

 

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did you install them and drive around a few hundred miles before you cut that spring? They do settle after a few hundred miles


If you cut 1/2 coil off (thats a lot, it is probably going to ride pretty rough) and you dont have any shocks in the car....when you jack it up, yes, the springs are going to come loose.

 

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the springs are too short from the cut. Mine are the same way, but they will not fall out under normal driving, only when jacking up the front.im used to it

 

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Shocks are on the car, when the car is jacked up the UCA will fall to the limit and that is when the shock comes unseated at the top of the shocktower. Before making the cut on the springs I did drive around some but not hundreds of miles, I would think with the technology used in making the springs these days that the 620 springs would not settle a ton. As far as the ride right now its actually really nice, I think the KYB GR2's and the 620's work well together.

 

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You can run a nylon limiting strap over the top of the shock and under the spring perch if it is really bothering you. You can get the right material from 4X4 shops. But like stated above it will only be a problem when you jack the car or do your rendition of the original gone in 60 sec.

 

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This is actually a fairly common problem with late model cars that have lowering springs added, I have seen it on mustangs and M3. Dont worry about it- they will pop back in to place when you put the car back on the ground.

 

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Add a 1/2" spacer between the shock and the shock tower. This will limit downward travel, and probablly fix it.

 

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65intex

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coolblue65 said:

This is actually a fairly common problem with late model cars that have lowering springs added, I have seen it on mustangs and M3. Dont worry about it- they will pop back in to place when you put the car back on the ground.

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Not real worried, dont plan on launching the car anytime soon, just wanted to see if it was common and if there was any simple solution. I will probably just leave them be and enjoy the low ride. Now I just need some larger wheels, im suffering from the small wheel syndrom (14's).

 

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When you lowered the car, did you use spacers to adjust the shock up. This will also aid in not allowing your UCA going too far down to allow the spring to become undone. A lot of people don't do this measure which doesn't give the shock its ideal dampening.
Kevin

 

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65intex

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Sicarius428 said:

When you lowered the car, did you use spacers to adjust the shock up. This will also aid in not allowing your UCA going too far down to allow the spring to become undone. A lot of people don't do this measure which doesn't give the shock its ideal dampening.
Kevin

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No i wasnt aware of the spacers, but then I didnt know that the springs were going to be that short either. I dont think there will be any problems I cant handle, I will get used to the springs being short.

 

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I don't want to hi-jack the thread or start an arguement, but in my experiences, springs do not settle at all. I've lowered nearly every car I've ever owned, and once you roll the car forward and backwards a bit to get the bind out of the A-arms, it is what it is height-wise, and I have verified that with a tape measure. I also help out with my brother's race car, and we set the cross weights (it's an open-wheeled circle tracker) with scales before the races, and unless he hits something, the cross weight and ride height are always the same. I know it's a commonly accepted idea, and I'm not saying it's never happened, but in my experience, it simply doesn't happen. Having said that, I agree that short springs are prone to dropping out when you jack up both wheels at the same time.

 

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65intex said:

I know I read of this condition in a past thread I just cant find it now. I recently installed some 620 springs and they raised the front end up way to high. After removing the springs cutting a 1/4 of the coil at a time I finally had the right stance, total of 1/2 coil cut?? Now when I raise the front of the car to where the wheels are off the ground the springs come unseated at the top of the shock towers. It is easy to get them back in place with bungee cords when lowering the car back down but is there a permanent fix for this problem?

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This is a pain but they are not going anywhere once the car is down. My road racer springs would drop out every time the car when up on jack stands but stayed in place from Daytona to Watkins Glen with no straps, cables or duct tape needed.

Get a buddy to hold the springs in place with a screw driver when lowering the car off jack stands.

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I never knew they would fall out either. When I started working on my car I had to wait two weeks for the neighborhood autozone spring compressor loaner to become available. I was dumbfounded when I started taking apart the front suspension and jacked the car up and removed the springs with little to no effort. I couldn't believe I had waited 2 weeks for nothing.

 

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you couls also get some modified shock tower caps as well. opentracker can make you a set. scroll down about halfway on this page and you'll see them, it says coming soon but if you shoot him an email i'm sure he wouldn't mind doing a set for you or even tell you how to make them yourself.

http://www.opentrackerracingproducts.com/products/