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hey how's it's going everybody hope everyone's having a good night. Well I've been having some problems with my 1988 mustang gt 5.0 ho 5 speed lately.

There was an issue of the RPMS going high (up to 3000) on first cold starts. The problem would only go away when put into gear and released the clutch.
I recently cleaned my IAC and the problems has yet to return. Also on the cold start issues my mustang never starts on the first crank. It always start on the second crank this problem is still happening. AND FINALLY TO THE MAIN CONCERN OF THIS POST!. The current issue in having is when I'm driving the car it will start to pop and the only way to stop it is by giving gas as it continues to pop but eventually runs smooth. This will happen usually in 1st gear 2nd and 3rd
 

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First step: Dump the codes

You guys with idle/stall problems could save a lot of time chasing your tails if you would go through the Surging Idle Checklist. Over 50 different people contributed information to it. The first two posts have all the fixes, and steps through the how to find and fix your idle problems without spending a lot of time and money. It includes how to dump the computer codes quickly and simply as one of the first steps. I continue to update it as more people post fixes or ask questions. You can post questions to that sticky and have your name and idle problem recognized. The guys with original problems and fixes get their posts added to the main fix.

It's free, I don't get anything for the use of it except knowing I helped a fellow Mustang enthusiast with his car. At last check, it had more than 200,000 hits, which indicates it does help fix idle problems quickly and inexpensively.
 

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Step #1. Dump codes. 1988's don't have a functional check engine light
 
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Problems still acurring. My check engine light is actually on I'm hoping a family friend will be able to help me use the scanner this week to at least pull codes. I don't recall the diagnostic connection under the hood? I know most can be found under the dash. I'll have to check it out in the morning. Thanks for the replies!
 
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Also another question is my speedometer cable located on the left or right of the passenger side? It looks like the right cable is for my clutch.
 
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Also another question is my speedometer cable located on the left or right of the passenger side? It looks like the right cable is for my clutch.
 

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Speedo cable will be near the brake booster, runs down close to the firewall down to the frame rail, the clutch cable comes out of firewall to shock tower and curls down towards the motor mount
Connector for the scanner is under the hood by the brake booster
Refer to the run codes sticky there is a specific plug that can be confused with a under hood light that can damage your computer
 
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Problems still acurring. My check engine light is actually on I'm hoping a family friend will be able to help me use the scanner this week to at least pull codes. I don't recall the diagnostic connection under the hood? I know most can be found under the dash. I'll have to check it out in the morning. Thanks for the replies!
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The connector is under the hood, drivers side near the wiper motor.

It's not the same as the obd2 connector under the dash in most cars.

You'll need a ford EEC/4 scanner

Amazon product ASIN B000EW0KHWView: https://www.amazon.com/INNOVA-3145-Ford-Digital-Reader/dp/B000EW0KHW
 

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Dump the codes: Codes may be present even if the Check Engine Light (CEL) isn't on.

Dumping the computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

Revised 26-July-2011. Added need to make sure the clutch is pressed when dumping codes.

Codes may be present even if the check engine light hasn’t come on, so be sure to check for them.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Post the codes you get and I will post 86-93 model 5.0 Mustang specific code definitions and fixes. I do not have a complete listing for 94-95 model 5.0 Mustangs at this time.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. On a manual transmission car, be sure to press the clutch to the floor.
Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.





If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.

The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems. This is crucial: the same wire that provides the ground to dump the codes provides signal ground for the TPS, EGR, ACT and Map/Baro sensors. If it fails, you will have poor performance, economy and driveablity problems

Some codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off, and clutch (if present) is pressed to the floor, and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Your 86-88 5.0 won't have a working Check Engine Light, so you'll need a test light.
See AutoZone Part Number: 25886 , $10




Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see www.midwayautosupply.com/Equus-Digital-Ford-Code-Reader/dp/B000EW0KHW Equus - Digital Ford Code Reader 3145.
It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $22-$36.
 
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