A wiring revolution

Edbert

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This was posted on another thread, I was responding to it then realised I was hijacking and this topic certainly warrants a thread of it's own.

mtbdoc said:

Edbert, your wiring page suggests why this may be the "next wave" in rewiring old cars: http://www.isqe.com/

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This is simply astonishing. Fits into the category of "wow, super futuristic" and "how come they never did this before" at the same time. Anyone seen this, analyzed this, used this stuff (or know someone who has) before? It almost makes me want to rip out the painless stuff and start over!

http://www.isqe.com

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NasaGT

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Holy crap thats a nice setup. A little pricey, but I guess you get what you pay for.

 

rbohm

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i have seen similar systems in the prototyping stage, and have not been impressed with them as yet. my feeling is that when the automakers start using them, then i will seriously consider using it.

 

Edbert

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rbohm said:

i have seen similar systems in the prototyping stage, and have not been impressed with them as yet. my feeling is that when the automakers start using them, then i will seriously consider using it.

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I'm not sure the mainstream makers will any time soon, if ever, but this forum is full of folks who do stuff the mainstream manufacturers would never do to their general-production cars like 4-point belts, $5K paint jobs, and roll cages.

This is definitely a high-end solution, I'd expect to see custom builders and hot-rodders using them.

 

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gzminiz

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I will be using this as I hate wiring and think that thing rocks. ;-) just need to do everything else first. Might start with putting her back together.

 

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Isn't the new Mustang wired in this way? It's a data bus that goes round the car, and addressable stuff hangs off it?

Cool, pricey, and impossible to fix when it goes wrong...

 

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mtbdoc

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I first came upon this when looking at some kit car boards...and it really seemed interesting. I don't know if I have enough wiring needs on my '66 to do this or not, but when I clicked on Edbert's homepage, I was struck by all of the work he had put into his wiring.

That is the key: what is your time worth? This is a MUCH EASIER install from what I have deciphered. I just don't have enough time to do everything I'd like, and so this makes sense. Painless is NOT CHEAP, and the time savings [and, to be honest, it is a really sexy way to do it!] make it seem like a real possible approach.

The system has total redundancy built in as well...so failure shouldn't be an issue.

 

reenmachine

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Veeeeery interesting. I'm definitely going to look into this further, especially after the gazillion hours I have into wiring the vert. It would seem to make sense on a build like that that has upgraded lighting, 4 power windows, driving lights, modern HVAC, alarm, extra audio, etc.

 

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Starting in model year 06, the vehicles are no longer OBDII, but a CAN network. This is mostly for the engine and sensors, but its coming.... the networking reduces the wiring needed and puts more power into the diagnostics of the engine controller.

I wonder what protocol they are using... I would bet is CAN, but I would have to talk to them to find out the specifics... they might not tell though.

Overall, I like it.

 

2nd Mustang

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I dunno. I work with high speed data stuff at work. Yeah, there's diagnostic abilities built in, but sometimes it is too high tech for it's own good. There have been many times when the master unit says there is no trouble, but a good voltmeter found the trouble right away. I guess I'm old school, just click and put the juice where it's needed I say.

BTW, these guys need a better web site. Everytime I click close, the site closes my browser.

 

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PJx5x

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sweet. but their site is organized horribly. it looks like they also have an engine wiring harness for a 5.0, sweet. i could do my whole car with this stuff...

http://www.isqe.com/Tools/Portfolio...size=0&lngDisplay=0&jPageNumber=1&strMetaTag=

 

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natedizzle

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This looks like a pretty sweet way of wiring up your car. I'm hesitant to invest in it until someone else tries it. It will be interesting to hear first-hand of someone's experience with this kit!