That's sweet, but not NA.
That's sweet, but not NA.
I think you should just show me an example instead of hypothesizing about what else can be done, but in any case, the motor you're referring too appears to be a $27k 5.2L aluminator block (https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-A52XS) and that one makes 120 hp more than any other NA coyote. Yes, forSo Ford makes a crate engine that makes 580 HP on pump gas NA, with a warranty. I don't think it's unreasonable to get even more out of a Coyote from a respected engine builder who isn't held to the same marketing standards and warranty standards as Ford. Granted, Ford's is much higher in the price range than what most would say is respectable here.
What intake?The Coyote has flown the coop. While a novel idea,it's just too much extra work,while the Dart is drop-in. Now,I already have AFR 185 Renegades,thinking I could just do a shortblock and do the top-end myself. Decisions...
I had my beer goggles on.You sure? A quick look seems to indicate coyote heads flowing around 280-290 CFM on tge intake while AFR 205s flow upwards at 320 CFM, granted at what I would consider to be radical lift.
Current intake is a TF track heat. But a local guy has a brand new Systemax I've been watching.What intake?
Where would I find these Godzillas?If you’re staying N/A I would just like to drop this here as well.
There’s a 460 stroked to 501 for sale on Marketplace rn for $3200. Brand new, full long block. A couple truck based stock motors with low miles for $500.
Additionally, they’re a metric F-ton of 7.3 Godzillas being taken out brand new from fleet vehicles being converted to electric. I like big blocks and I cannot lie. Especially N/A
Seriously, Ford sells them, 7.3ci big block.Where would I find these Godzillas?
Seriously, 7.3 cubic inches sounds small to me...Seriously, Ford sells them, 7.3ci big block.
I keep telling you to take your gloves off before you play with it.Seriously, 7.3 cubic inches sounds small to me...
I'm going to chose my words carefully (I know you pervsSeriously, 7.3 cubic inches sounds small to me...
I'm sure I can find others as well, if I get time I'll be happy to.I think you should just show me an example instead of hypothesizing about what else can be done, but in any case, the motor you're referring too appears to be a $27k 5.2L aluminator block (https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-A52XS) and that one makes 120 hp more than any other NA coyote. Yes, fors and giggles, I'll go ahead and assume with E85 it'll break through the 500rwhp barrier. I was referring to a 5.0 coyote. Wasn't considering the extra displacement. The displacement alone is worth about 30hp.
Here's a quick google search of a TFS 11R 205cc 363 making 575hp, not sure if wheel or engine dyno: https://www.yellowbullet.com/threads/363-dyno-results.2524473/
Here's a 592 crank hp 363 on 91 pump, apparently:
A nitrous motor in this thread went to 622hp@7300 without the spray: https://www.yellowbullet.com/threads/363-650hp-what-would-it-take.1693762/
And so on. With a Dart motor, I don't think either has the RPM advantage. I was impressed with the low lift flow numbers on the coyote heads, so I imagine you're going to get more power/c.i... but are you gonna get 20% more (the offset in displacement)? Doubt it.
My takeaway is power potential is NOT a reason to go with the coyote. I can appreciate personal preference, or whatever floats your boat, but I don't think arguing the potential of the motor gets a reasonable person there.
ALOT of guys are doing this now In hot street apps . Low lash setup . Basically radical hydraulic with a solid lifter and low low lash .I watched that.
It was interesting.
Looking forward to the long term durability of running a sold roller lifter on a hyd grind.
I run a solid roller in my race engine.
I set the lash at the beginning of the year and don't look at it until the end of the year.
Usually it is still spot on.
I would assume some of that is due to using premium components in every area, no expense spared.
Track heat is small for a 363 . I wouldn’t run anything but a set of 205 or bigger on them as well . 225 high port , nice hyd roller , tfs r intake . Done by zsr and send it . That dude really builds nice stuffCurrent intake is a TF track heat. But a local guy has a brand new Systemax I've been watching.
It's subjective, man. Do we have to chase our tails in circles on what brings the most passion in a daily? Would a Mustang of any kind even be the starting platform for someone who so values minimum NVH, maintenance, or fuel economy?I'm sure I can find others as well, if I get time I'll be happy to.
That said, I personally daily drove my 2014 GT for 7 years and almost 100k miles. The Coyote is far superior in every way for a daily driven or street car than the pushrod 5.0 for the same amount of dollars spent. Do you have 100k miles on a Coyote to compare it to? Also the link I posted from LMR is for $22k ($5k cheaper).
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you can make more power out of the 363 but if you're going to complain that the 5.2 is stroked and not a 5.0 you'd have to make that same complaint against the 363 right? If this is for a race car only then yes, 363 all the way.... street car, Coyote.
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