Alright gang, built Dart or Coyote?

FastDriver said:

Can anyone here give us the actual fair transplant costs? Accessories, computer, wiring harness, engine bay fabrication, etc...? Christ, I'm starting to think you'd have a 363 shortblock paid for before you even put a deposit down on the Coyote. I just kinda figured we were talking about used Coyote from the marketplace, because that's the one that's Dart 363 money after the extra expenses.

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Ummmm... me. I had a built top end 5.0 that I could have said just do a 363 short block and then we upgrade the trans and go. Instead we are building a forged bottom end for my 4.6 DOCH that already has a Vortech on it. To do that I had to trade my MM K member for a MM Swap K member, I had to sell off the old engine/trans/computer/exhaust/etc. and buy those things new.

Sure I *could* have dropped the engine and trans into my car as is, with the dyno sheet of 450 RWHP already there but I know that the limit of the stock rods on the 4.6's is around 500hp and since I'm already going full send on everything might as well do the bottom end too. While I'm in there let's not forget about the timing components, the OPG's, and other items that will make it more durable. All said, worst case, the rebuild costs me about $8-9k.... but I won't have to pull it back out later. I'll have to buy a holley to run it all still as well as some headers/x pipe.

Yes, I likely could have saved money going with the 363 which was my original plan, but just like you, I know what I want my car to be and how I want to get there. Yes the 4.6 isn't the same as a Coyote, but it SOUNDS WAY BETTER than the Coyote and once properly bullet proofed (just like a 5.0) can make big power. Plus the sound of the blower on there is music to my ears.

For me I'm having K and K build what I thought Ford should have made as the very best Fox ever created. Literally the best pieces of each generation, including the engine. So yeah, I know ALL about the costs to convert this , and I know it's not for everyone... but knowing all I know at this point it would have been cheaper and easier to just throw a Coyote in there and put a blower on it later and call it a day.

Love it! Sounds like an awesome build!

I don't know about yall but I'm kinda tired of seeing coyotes in foxes. They are all the same. Painted or unpainted valve covers. Stock or cold air intake. Supercharged or NA. They all look the same and cookie cutter. I like seeing push rod V8s that hand coyote a hand full of whip a$s. A good 363, 393, 406, or 427 holds their own. It's been forever since I've seen a 460 build in a fox on the street. The 7.3 would peak my interest. I know 3 people right now that are doing pickup truck coyote swaps. It gets expensive real quick.

Much of this entire debate is subjective.
For me it's about how the car will be driven.
If you aren't going to the track and we are talking 400rwhp+, personally i don't see what a few horsepower here or there do for you. I'll take average over max these days.
You also can't be surprised when you use race car parts to make the power and the car drives like a race car on the street. I'm sure that's fine with some people, but i'm long past that (and there was a time when that was me).
I'm also not into screwing with things i consider "done", engine wise i haven't touched a thing is like 10 to 15 years. There is nothing to mess with, nor do i want to, it's allowed me to concentrate on other issues that have been on my nerves for a long time.

Not sure either where all you guys that don't goto the track are racing people. From what i see, most of it is just bench racing or watching it on youtube and in that case, nobody really wins.

I'm kinda good with any ford engine in a ford. So as long it's not an LS (which i'm fine with in GM vehicles), i think people should do and build whatever it is makes them happy and suits their driving style or goals.

No matter how you slice it, it's expensive and i believe both the 363 and the coyote have merit in their own ways.