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Aluminum Cobra block w/ 2V heads...?

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Back2Mustangs

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I'm going to get kicked in the jewels more than a few times for this post, but I have to ask. I was thinking about the benefits of weight savings and possible better cooling characteristics of an aluminum block over the iron block...Whats stopping me from building a bottom end for NA application with an aluminum Cobra block, and bolting new 2 valve heads to it?? I know everyone might ask, why not just go 4V if you're buying new heads anyways? I don't want to mess with it really. Its more expensive, more stuff to buy, and more work than I want to put into this car. I'd rather stay 2 valve, NA with as much as I can get out of it with heads & cams while focusing more on weight savings and freeing up accessory drag... If I convert to manual brakes, drop the hyrdo-boost for manual rack & pinion, go tubular k-member and suspension and electric water pump-> the next big weight saver would be the aluminum block. So if you can swap all the 4V heads and parts to a GT block, obviously it seems you'd be able to bolt 2V heads to a Cobra block... ???

BTW I exhausted the search feature and I must be the first moron to pose this question.
 

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There is a hole that must be drilled on the drive side of the block for coolant passages. It is right above the water pump.
 

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You could get an aluminum PI block! I have seen it around here somewhere..
 

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Compromise... use 3V heads...
 

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TheSalad said:
You could get an aluminum PI block! I have seen it around here somewhere..
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yes, in explorers

What mogs said, you have to tap a hole in the block for coolant
 

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Explorers have the aluminum 2V block.
 

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Kar kraft used to sell them. But i don't think they have them anymore
 

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Oh I see. So anyone have any idea how much lighter a bare Explorer block is than the iron GT block? I've heard numbers around 100lbs between the iron and aluminum Cobra blocks...?
 

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Back2Mustangs said:
Oh I see. So anyone have any idea how much lighter a bare Explorer block is than the iron GT block? I've heard numbers around 100lbs between the iron and aluminum Cobra blocks...?
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From what i could tell just by picking up my stock block compared to my build aluminum shortblock, the stock block by itself felt as heavy or heavier. I say the aluminum blocks are anywhere from 85-100 pounds lighter.
 
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do you know what years of explorer V8's are compatible with mustang 2V PI heads? And I thought that the Modular explorer blocks already had the cooling passage provision in them from the factory being that they used 2V PI heads.
 

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hmmm aluminum block build, sounds interesting.
 

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Get yourself a Teksid block out of an old Mark VIII and start from there. The best of the blocks and much cheaper and easier to find than an Explorer casting.
 

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Gearbanger 101 said:
Get yourself a Teksid block out of an old Mark VIII and start from there. The best of the blocks and much cheaper and easier to find than an Explorer casting.
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yep, got mine for 400 bones.
 

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Gearbanger 101 said:
Get yourself a Teksid block out of an old Mark VIII and start from there. The best of the blocks and much cheaper and easier to find than an Explorer casting.
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thats DOHC isn't it?
 
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This is kind of a cool sounding idea, are the aluminum block as strong as the cast ones? Would it stand up to a 9 - 14 psi KB?
 

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Silvr04GT said:
This is kind of a cool sounding idea, are the aluminum block as strong as the cast ones? Would it stand up to a 9 - 14 psi KB?
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LMAO they can handle 1000+
 
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mogs01gt said:
LMAO they can handle 1000+
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Well didn't the switch back to a cast block in the 03/04 Cobra?
 

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mity2 said:
thats DOHC isn't it?
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yup

you get my message on yim?
 

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Silvr04GT said:
Well didn't the switch back to a cast block in the 03/04 Cobra?
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yes and it had nothing to do with power.
 
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mogs01gt said:
yes and it had nothing to do with power.
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So why did they switch it?
 
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