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ricksgt

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Hello again, the last dyno day at Fast Specialties went great. There is another one on the books for Nov 12th and 13th. Jerry from SCT will be coming up here if there are enough people. So far there is about 6 people. Jerry's price is going to be $350 for the custom dyno tune with dyno time included. He will be tuning with SCT products only. You can purchase an SCT chip or tuner from anywhere, SCT, Ebay, Local vendors or at the dyno tuning event. If you want on the list for the tuning event or have any further questions, please call Fast Specialties @
360-213-2781.

This tuning event will be held at Fast Specialties in Vancouver, WA.

Rick
 

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You said the guy is coming up here. I see your location is Arlington. Does that mean he is coming up here to Arlington area..It looks like that business is down Vancouver way..
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Scotty
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Sorry about that, its updated now. It is actually going to be held in Vancouver. They have a mustang dyno which is great for tuning due to the ability to load the car.

Rick
 

The Factor

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Whats the difference between a mustang dyno and a dyno jet. Just curious because i've always dynoed on a dyno jet.
 

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From what I understand, a dynojet doesnt put the true load on the car, as if you would be driving on the street. They mustang dyno does a better job when it comes to loading the drum, therefore giving you actual load on the car.

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They are both good tools for tuning but to compare them we could go on forever on which one is better. The industry standard is the Dynojet for the cobras and if you don't believe me post on all the other forums and find out.

Here are a few threads asking these same questions.

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ricksgt

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Great links......most shops use Dynojets, I dont know why, maybe they dont cost as much, maybe they are just well known, or maybe people like the higher numbers, its all up to the person who buys it.

Rick
 

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Or maybe the shop owner doesn't want the overhead cost which in return gets pushed back onto the customer to use the dyno?
 

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All worthless unless you goto the SAME dyno each and every time..............

TOO many variables, track times do tell the story in the end.

I won't make it, 12 hr days 24/7 for the next two weeks.
 

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Cavallo said:
All worthless unless you goto the SAME dyno each and every time..............

TOO many variables, track times do tell the story in the end.
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That is so true and why I go here!
 

The Factor

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ASD said:
That is so true and why I go here!
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Did someone say Torque Freaks
 

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i might go over to this maybeto see what the diffrence is in the 2 dyno's? or just to check these guy's out? never been there, one more thing this Jerry guy from SCT is a SCT employee right ? not a fast employee? so he should be able to get the most out of a car or atleast really know his stuff with it ? peace



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ricksgt

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Yes, Jerry is the Chief Engineer over at SCT for their tuning. He will be the one doing the tuning. This wont be happening for 1 more month.....

Rick
 

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SCT also recommends tuning on a mustang dyno.

Rick
 

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.... The industry standard is the Dynojet for the cobras and if you don't believe me post on all the other forums and find out.
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Probably the main reason is Dynojets reproduce consistent numbers. Mustang dynos have too many variables and if they aren't entered correctly the numbers are worthless. You can make a car produce any hp # you want on a Mustang dyno.
 

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ricksgt said:
......or maybe people like the higher numbers.....

Rick
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Hmmm, interesting statement. There has been many claims that a Dynojet produces higher numbers. This may be true providing 100% accurate variables are being plugged into the Mustang dyno software. After looking at many local dyno sheets compared from Mustang dyno to Dynojet I have not seen any results in which the Dynojet # was higher. They were either close to equal or the Mustang dyno showed much higher numbers.
 

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ricksgt said:
Great links......most shops use Dynojets, I dont know why, maybe they dont cost as much, maybe they are just well known, or maybe people like the higher numbers, its all up to the person who buys it.

Rick
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There are several factors at play when it comes to deciding which dyno to purchase for a shop. I may be opening a shop in nine months or so in the Beaverton area, so rest assured that I have thoroughly researched both styles. Talking to shop owners who have used both dynos, many will say that the software that comes with a dynojet package is more user-friendly. In addition, the dynojets are usually cheaper. Maintaining both styles costs roughly the same. Some tuners argue that eddie-current style dynos (mustang dynos) load vehicles more realistically, based upon more accurate weight and resistance figures, yielding a better tune when the vehicle is on the street. This is also the reason that Mustang Dyno promotes all their peripheral crap that you can add to their dynos (weather station, a tree for drag racing, etc.). From what I have seen, nobody uses MD dynos to simulate quarter mile pulls in the middle of winter! From what I gather, customers do prefer to see the higher numbers provided by dynojets. Alan is correct in saying that one could argue for days about which dyno is better- yes, it is always the choice of the purchaser. Overall, I would like to say that across the nation, MD dynos are catching on, especially at larger facilities that can afford the higher initial cost. Many states employ mustang dynos to conduct emissions testing, as the parent company of MD started out manufacturing sensors, some of which are now used to conduct road-side emissions tests on unsuspecting motorists. If Oregon ever has the budget to adopt such road-side sensors, I suggest someone firebomb their manufacturing facility. Many of us will be feverishly detuning our cars and swapping out mid-pipes otherwise!
 

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Jon said:
Probably the main reason is Dynojets reproduce consistent numbers. Mustang dynos have too many variables and if they aren't entered correctly the numbers are worthless. You can make a car produce any hp # you want on a Mustang dyno.
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Very true. Mustang Dyno stresses that training all employees to properly use the dyno is key- too many technicians have no clue about how to properly enter settings in the software... or they simply don't bother to keep things constant between runs.
 

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Jon said:
Hmmm, interesting statement. There has been many claims that a Dynojet produces higher numbers. This may be true providing 100% accurate variables are being plugged into the Mustang dyno software. After looking at many local dyno sheets compared from Mustang dyno to Dynojet I have not seen any results in which the Dynojet # was higher. They were either close to equal or the Mustang dyno showed much higher numbers.
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Interesting. I have seen discrepancies, though I was never able to see atmospheric conditions in the comparissons I saw. MD salesman warn many shop owners that they should be prepared to see slightly lower numbers from a given vehicle on a MD. You are right though- the tech could rectify that by manipulating some settings!
 

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So then a MD is only as good as the Tech pushing the buttons.

I run on both kinds, lack of tech was evident for both kinds.

The dyno I prefer is the one that bolts to the axle with tires off, no BS tire slip or air pressure issue to fudge numbers
 
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