Any Supercharger experience?

[Maineiac15]

I have an 89 Mustang GT basically stock besides exhaust system and clutch. I want a little more power but am not interested in 400 HP. Also being only semi-mechanically inclined I really hate to take the nose piece off if I dont have to.

So my questons are....
Do I need an intercooler and if not what is max boost I should go with being stock? I am NOT looking for 300-400 horses.

If an intercooler is recommended do I have to pull the nose on an 89 mustang and how big a job is that?


Any other tips or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Cobra_Dusten]

i ran a non intercooled kenne bell @ 8 psi on a stock motor with no issues

 

[Saleen8786]

the vortech and paxton centrifugal units do not utilize a intercooler, the worst part about installing a blower is tapping the oil pan,other than that its cake. If i was you i would just install full exhaust on the car instead of a charger.

 

[BlownFiveLiter]

How much power are you looking for? On a bone stock, just as it rolled off the assembly line engine, a supercharger is going to likely push you over 300 horses, regardless of the supercharger manufacturer.

 

[Maineiac15]

300+ would be nice as long as I don't have to touch the engine or worry about detonation or any other engine damage.

I've just had people tell me to go without an intercooler because they've heard it's a pain to install. Then all the reading I do the intercooler seems to be recommended. I don't want to take the word of someone who hasn't done it then regret I didn't do it right.

If I could easily bolt on a SC only and get 300 horsepower safely that's great.

If someone was to tell me the intercooler was simple to put on and I could be twice as safe then I would think about that as well.

Just looking for some experience you guys may have.

Thanks for the responses... and so quick!

 

[Cobra_Dusten]

that really depends on supercharger brand, and location of the inner cooler.

 

[bentley429]

I've seen up to 17 psi non intercooled pump gas with no issues. Intercooler is not needed but can help. Taking the nose of is very simple, believe it is about 10 nuts and disconnect the headlights. Installing the supercharger is very simple also, first time I put one on my car it took me about 4 hours, that was a powerdyne. S trim was very fast to install when I swapped out the powerdyne, seeing as there was nothing there. Have you thought about a turbo?

 

[rbonella]

I have an 89 Mustang GT basically stock besides exhaust system and clutch. I want a little more power but am not interested in 400 HP. Also being only semi-mechanically inclined I really hate to take the nose piece off if I dont have to.

So my questons are....
Do I need an intercooler and if not what is max boost I should go with being stock? I am NOT looking for 300-400 horses.

If an intercooler is recommended do I have to pull the nose on an 89 mustang and how big a job is that?


Any other tips or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

To answer your questions first, you do not need an intercooler on your stock motor. Since you are looking for modest hp gains, you won't need more than 8-9 lbs of boost from your sc therefore you don't need intercooling. You could start out with 6 lbs and see if that fullfills your thirst for speed. If that's not enough...you can move to a smaller pulley and produce 8-9 lbs which should do the job! Second, you will not need to pull the nose off your car!
In my opinion....If you don't need 300hp, I would make things a little easier on yourself and purchase a Holley head/cam/intake package for thousands less than what it would take to install a sc. Here's the catch! You may be able to install the sc yourself, but you will need to also install an intank fuel pump, external fuel pump, larger injectors, then have your stang tunes for the new combo which equals a lot more time and $! OR, for thousands less you can have a professional install a head/cam/intake combo which will make your car ALOT faster than stock, save $, it will be very reliable, run cooler (superchargers produce a lot of heat in the engine) and sound amazing! Think about it and do some research

 

[Foxfan88]

To answer your questions first, you do not need an intercooler on your stock motor. Since you are looking for modest hp gains, you won't need more than 8-9 lbs of boost from your sc therefore you don't need intercooling. You could start out with 6 lbs and see if that fullfills your thirst for speed. If that's not enough...you can move to a smaller pulley and produce 8-9 lbs which should do the job! Second, you will not need to pull the nose off your car!
In my opinion....If you don't need 300hp, I would make things a little easier on yourself and purchase a Holley head/cam/intake package for thousands less than what it would take to install a sc. Here's the catch! You may be able to install the sc yourself, but you will need to also install an intank fuel pump, external fuel pump, larger injectors, then have your stang tunes for the new combo which equals a lot more time and $! OR, for thousands less you can have a professional install a head/cam/intake combo which will make your car ALOT faster than stock, save $, it will be very reliable, run cooler (superchargers produce a lot of heat in the engine) and sound amazing! Think about it and do some research

i dont know where in the world your coming up with "thousands less"

if a person is capable of installing a supercharger kit they are DEFINATLY capable of installing a a fuel pump and injectors, those are super easy to do.... as for the tune, yes a tune is the BEST way to go. but if the OP isnt concerned about alot of power, he will do just fine using the stock injectors and using an FMU, its not the best way but it works and is simple and for a mild setup i dont see a problem at all.

any pre packaged HCI like the TFS or holley are at least 2k. and the fuel pump and injector arguement cant be used. you will ned a fuel pump upgrade and injectors even with a HCI.

you can get a vortech SC trim kit for like 1800 brand new with everything, set up for 5-6 psi. and that is enough to get a bolt on/gears stock motor stang into the 12s. and is a true bolt on, witha HCI you have to tear apart the engine and its a much more involved process. the SC will provide the best SOTP gain for the money/time/effort put into the upgrade. not bashing on HCI, if money is no object i would do a HCI first then a SC. but if the OP isnt looking for alot of power i say bolt the supercharger on, keeping the stock cam for excellent street manners and drivability.

 

[BLOWN347STROKER]

supercharger

A supercharger does not require a intercooler, However if you do not have on on a centrifical supercharger your intake temp will be a lot higher. The supercharger creates heat therfore cannot give you as much power. The intercooler puts the intake temp down to around 30 degrees verses the 200 non intercooled. I am currently installing a D-1SC procharger on my car. You can call or email procharger for information about the supercharger setups if you want to go with a centrifical. The will send you a book and other info specific for your car for free. They are however quite pricey, but they do come with a 3 year warranty on the unit itself. The power gains for intercooled versus non intercooled are much greater.

 

[Boostedpimp]

Like stated before just about any supercharger you bolt on to your stock car will give you 300 plus so I would keep it as simple as possible and go the vortech sc trim route suggested above. you get everything needed to put 5/6 psi into your stock car. Yes a intercooler would drop your inlet temps and give you more power out of your supercharger but your not looking to be the most efficient or to squeeze the most out of your combo or else you'd be looking into bigger and better things

The vortech sc trim was designed for exactly what you want.. a supercharger kit that'll bolt up to a completely stock mustang and give moderate boost in power without breaking the bank or requiring major modifications

 

[BLOWN347STROKER]

Another great thing about the procharger is that you can get a smaller one to put on a stock motor like th P-1SC which is self contained. There is no oil lines that have to be put in. I am putting in the D-1SC now. You do have to pull the front end off of the car. The setup is fairly easy. it just bolts right up on my 95. However it does take patience. It only took me about 6 hours with help from a couple of friends to get everything set up. I am just modifying a few other things to get it how I want it. The fox setup is supposed to be easier to install. I would check in to HouseofBoost.com They are very helpful.

 

[95tealtang]

Are you sure you want a supercharger?

If you don't really care about a lot of hp, I'm not sure I would go with a supercharger. They introduce several issues (custom tuning, upgrading the fuel system, keeping the boost out of your motor, etc.) I love mine but it was a major pain in the ass to install and get everything just right. I'm just not sure it is all worth the time and effort if you are not trying to build a speedster, especially if you don't have much experience working on car.