Anyone else want to see Paul Martin drop dead?

Boss 351 · Jan 11, 2006

The liberals are too big, too full of shnizzit. <- hahaha best emoticon for that!

Voting for the bloc doesn't do any good, all it does is tell other provinces that quebec is still having a seperation wet dream, we'll never get taken seriously if this province keeps voting for crap like that.

Conservative party? I don't know I think I may go that route... votes for other small parties like the bloc, green, NDP will just take votes away from the only real competition to the liberals.

To be honest, No one seems deserving of being voted in my opinion. It's like having to choose from the lesser evil. Our poor, poor country. What a great idea this country is based on but sadly we're so corrupted.

If I was to be in charge, I'd turn the whole system upsidedown, seperate every province and form a new union sort of like the states. Start this country all over again and this time throw away our british roots and make our own. Burn or melt every piece of money that has the queen's face on it too! I don't support the seperation of quebec, the PQ are more corrupted than the Liberal party. I wouldn't want to seperate if they're in charge. Maybe some other people.

Stangfreak95 · Jan 11, 2006

Yeah that bastard is going down. I'm sure not voting liberal.

Keasbey · Jan 11, 2006

I Still not voting.. 'cause I think that everyone up there are all corrupted, and they are not better one then the other..

I would say like steeve... kick this old bitch out,Kick all those senators out, kick Paul martin out, don't separate québec... ( the only goods it could make is reduce taxes ( at least remove the federal taxes.. but probably the provincial taxe will increase..)

AWWW nm!

Stangfreak95 · Jan 11, 2006

Then just go vote but CANCEL your vote. So that none of those clowns can get it.

Boss 351 · Jan 12, 2006

yeah there won't be a very big turnout again... and we won't have a gov. since it will be split 50/50 between the Libs and Conservatives...

QCStang · Jan 12, 2006

They all scare the shat out of me..

Living in Quebec, I have no choice but to destroy my ballot.

Can't vote Libs. Used to, but no more. Obvious.

Can't vote B.Q. Although They appear to be good politicians, I can't vote for their main platform - separation. Been a second class citizen all my life in Quebec, I still think I'll be an equal one day...

Can't vote Conservative - they are actually super rednecks (Reform Party) that have been covering their tracks and objectives very well.

Can't vote NDP. Good people, but theeir platform is going to cost money. I paid $26,000 in taxes last year. I don't want more.

03 Pony · Jan 12, 2006

QCStang said:
They all scare the shat out of me..

Living in Quebec, I have no choice but to destroy my ballot.

Can't vote Libs. Used to, but no more. Obvious.

Can't vote B.Q. Although They appear to be good politicians, I can't vote for their main platform - separation. Been a second class citizen all my life in Quebec, I still think I'll be an equal one day...

Can't vote Conservative - they are actually super rednecks (Reform Party) that have been covering their tracks and objectives very well.

Can't vote NDP. Good people, but theeir platform is going to cost money. I paid $26,000 in taxes last year. I don't want more.

Wow, $26,000 in taxes - that's a boat load of cash man.

Keasbey · Jan 12, 2006

03 Pony said:
Wow, $26,000 in taxes - that's a boat load of cash man.

people with a wage of 60,000$/year pay that amount of taxes.. my father earn around 75,000/year.. and if we calculate every taxes (like school taxes, tps,tvq, blah blahb etc etc..) my father pay around 35,000$ of taxe/year if it isn't more

CrazyHorn · Jan 12, 2006

I think the bloc is the better party in quebec, but I don't like the separatist thing, seems like no party is good, but the liberals are the worst and I hope that they will loose all there seats.

TheDamned · Jan 12, 2006

yeah martin stinks

even tough conservative are rednecks it's the only party that can take the power now, better then martin for sure.

PULMEOVR · Jan 13, 2006

One thing is for 100% sure. I am not voting Conservative. They'll Americanize Canada.

I'm going to vote NDP, but maybe Liberal. I really haven't decided who is the lesser of the evils yet.

Matt

sickboystang · Jan 15, 2006

I didnt realize there was so much angst against the government in Canada. I have heard a little about the succession attempts of Quebec and I feel as though thats most likley not the best for the country as a whole. But just the fact that something of that nature could even be proposed in a country is way out there by US standards, if you even mention a succession in this country there would be an FBI investigation and then you would disappear! I understand no country is perfect but it seems to me there are alot of things you guys have all over the rotting corpse of a once great country we have!
I am a business ower and I pay in the 25-30% range for income, single business and property taxes. For my money I get no medical care(thats another $450.00 per month) or any form of benefits as a citizen, other than I can say I am the proud owner of a Tomahawk Missle sitting in a Iraqi dessert!
Maybe the grass is greener in the other side of the fence, but not this side, I envy you and your country!

TheDamned · Jan 15, 2006

sickboystang said:
I didnt realize there was so much angst against the government in Canada. I have heard a little about the succession attempts of Quebec and I feel as though thats most likley not the best for the country as a whole. But just the fact that something of that nature could even be proposed in a country is way out there by US standards, if you even mention a succession in this country there would be an FBI investigation and then you would disappear! I understand no country is perfect but it seems to me there are alot of things you guys have all over the rotting corpse of a once great country we have!
I am a business ower and I pay in the 25-30% range for income, single business and property taxes. For my money I get no medical care(thats another $450.00 per month) or any form of benefits as a citizen, other than I can say I am the proud owner of a Tomahawk Missle sitting in a Iraqi dessert!
Maybe the grass is greener in the other side of the fence, but not this side, I envy you and your country!

Come down here, we have good booze, weed and hockey is great

sickboystang · Jan 15, 2006

LMFAO!! Heck ya! We have made up our minds if they make good on the idea to open a strip in Sault Ste. Marie we would consider moving our shop across the border. We do Chassis fabrication and our own engine and tuning work aside from the machining(subject to change). My wife and brother in law were both born Canadian so it just may happen! I do want to visit the Elliot Lake race this summer and maybe make it to Toronto to race also. And who knows, I just may take a trip to Montreal and catch a game, when do they play the 'Wings?

QCStang · Jan 17, 2006

sickboystang said:
LMFAO!! Heck ya! We have made up our minds if they make good on the idea to open a strip in Sault Ste. Marie we would consider moving our shop across the border. We do Chassis fabrication and our own engine and tuning work aside from the machining(subject to change). My wife and brother in law were both born Canadian so it just may happen! I do want to visit the Elliot Lake race this summer and maybe make it to Toronto to race also. And who knows, I just may take a trip to Montreal and catch a game, when do they play the 'Wings?

No kind of immigration quota system for folks coming from the U.S.

I've been to the U.S. many times before. Nice place to visit but...

Montreal is an awesome town. NOWHERE in North America is there better food - and cheap as well. Even the little "greasy spoons" are awesome.

I don't think the Wings play the Habs this year. However, going to a game in Montreal is akin to a religious experience - kinda like watching a baseball game at Yankee Stadium. I speak from experience - as a kid I saw about 400 games at the old Montreal Forum. My aunt had two season tickets and gave them all to me, except for the Detroit tickets - that was her team. So I never got to see Detroit play.

TheDamned · Jan 17, 2006

sickboystang said:
LMFAO!! Heck ya! We have made up our minds if they make good on the idea to open a strip in Sault Ste. Marie we would consider moving our shop across the border. We do Chassis fabrication and our own engine and tuning work aside from the machining(subject to change). My wife and brother in law were both born Canadian so it just may happen! I do want to visit the Elliot Lake race this summer and maybe make it to Toronto to race also. And who knows, I just may take a trip to Montreal and catch a game, when do they play the 'Wings?

I don,t think we play them this year.. but like the dude stated, you have to go see a game... It's like going to the Fenway Park (wich I did last summer )

Carney Woods · Jan 19, 2006

Unfortunately there is not many options out there these days. Especially here in Quebec,either vote for the separatists (which is not good) or a percieved corrupt party. With no real 3rd option that will represent Quebec it's a hard choice.

I for one will vote liberal, more for the reason that they are the only party who's platform supports the railroads (I work for ViaRail) but aside from that Harper's conservative party is just power hungry and seizing the opportunity of liberal scandal issues. The conservative platform will in the long run will take away some of the freedoms we in Canada are known for. More private health care, and increased spending across the board all with a tax cut? Not likely. We pay more taxes in Canada but we also receive much more services than other places.

This election is very difficult because you have people voting against the liberals as a punishment for scandals but the other partys are in reality offering less to the people than Liberals are. It's easy to say "time for a change" but what if the change is worse than we have now?

STM1965 · Jan 19, 2006

Carney Woods said:
Unfortunately there is not many options out there these days. Especially here in Quebec,either vote for the separatists (which is not good) or a percieved corrupt party. With no real 3rd option that will represent Quebec it's a hard choice.

I for one will vote liberal, more for the reason that they are the only party who's platform supports the railroads (I work for ViaRail) but aside from that Harper's conservative party is just power hungry and seizing the opportunity of liberal scandal issues. The conservative platform will in the long run will take away some of the freedoms we in Canada are known for. More private health care, and increased spending across the board all with a tax cut? Not likely. We pay more taxes in Canada but we also receive much more services than other places.

This election is very difficult because you have people voting against the liberals as a punishment for scandals but the other partys are in reality offering less to the people than Liberals are. It's easy to say "time for a change" but what if the change is worse than we have now?

Too not vote, spoil your ballot or anyother thing doesn't help. We (Canadians) myself included sit on our collective butts and then whine & complain about how bad our goverment is. Why is this election going on, ans. is because Harper wants the power and couldn't & wouldn't work in the house of commons to keep the machine going. Do we really want Harper in power? and as for Martin, his fate was sealed long ago, he's been doomed from day one. He was in at the top for years behind the good ole boy Jean and sold down the river. There's no way he didn't know about the scandals brewing in his party. NDP well having lived with Rae days and seeing just how bad things can get when you vote other just for the sake of kicking the other guys to the curb at the provincal level, I can't vote for the NDP. The same thing that is happening to Martin happen to the conservative party after Brian Mulroney was kicked to the curb. Oh how short our collective memory is. I don't like any of the current bunch of boobs running.

Carney Woods · Jan 20, 2006

I'm not saying that i'm spoiling my vote but you have to play the hand you are dealt. To not vote doesn't change the fact that one of these guys will be in power next Monday. That's why I narrowed it down to who will help me the most. Historically the liberals have proved loyal to ViaRail. They have secured our subsidy and offered improvements to our infrastructure. The only thing the conservatives have ever done is cut jobs and downsize regardless of our revenues. Tax cuts are nice but if I have no job it won't help me anyway....

STM1965 · Jan 20, 2006

Carney Woods said:
I'm not saying that i'm spoiling my vote but you have to play the hand you are dealt. To not vote doesn't change the fact that one of these guys will be in power next Monday. That's why I narrowed it down to who will help me the most. Historically the liberals have proved loyal to ViaRail. They have secured our subsidy and offered improvements to our infrastructure. The only thing the conservatives have ever done is cut jobs and downsize regardless of our revenues. Tax cuts are nice but if I have no job it won't help me anyway....

I think a lot of the problem's stem from no longer having truely national party's anymore, The BLOC is not a national party, and never has been. They are solely a regional party. The conservative party while recovering from the Reform party platform, is seen as a national party on the surface while in fact they too are regional (western canada) and are seen by most in that light. It's a hard sell for them with Harper at the helm, they would have been better off with a leader from Eastern Canada. The NDP our National whipping boys, while they are a national party their agenda would make us the welfare country of the world, they will never get elected or even considered buy anyone in Ontario who can remember Bob Rae, he left such a mess behind him at the provincal level that he in effect killed any hope for a federal NDP. That leaves us with Paul Martin and the liberals, yep a national party, piggy's all lined up to strap on the feed bag (all party's strap on the feed bag once elected, the liberals just keep getting caught) Can and will Paul regain control of the country coffers? Its a hard sell for all Canadains to send him and his merry band of piggy's back to office, so much bad press and scandals. however you maybe right some of us my swing liberal simply because it's better the devil you know then the one you don't.

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