Are shorties a stock replacement?

billison · Oct 10, 2006

i have a chance to get a set of bbk shorties, will they bolt onto my stock exhaust? and what should i expect from putting them on my car?

Killer50stang · Oct 10, 2006

Yes, they will bolt on, but you won't notice much with the stock H pipe.

HISSIN50 · Oct 10, 2006

I recall seeing numbers and the stock fox headers were good till around 280 HP. I use that as a crude indication - though they look like crap, they dont hinder things right off the bat.

Good luck.

EDIT: I thought this was a 94-95 question. Edited appropriately.

Daggar · Oct 10, 2006

If the set is used... be wary of possible fitment issues.

bentley429 · Oct 10, 2006

Mid pipe comes before headers. If you are asking because you need to pass emissions and will be putting the stock H back on for that they will go on. Is it fun, no takes alittle time to get it to fit without any leaks.

billison · Oct 10, 2006

i'm asking because i have a chance to get a set cheap and would like to know if i should really even bother, exhaust wise i just have stock headers and h pipe off a 93 gt and flows and thought i could toss the headers on and get it to sound a little meaner

GTOreturns · Oct 10, 2006

Dont touch the factory headers till you get 260+HP. And leave the mid pipe on till you get new heads or work done to you stock E-7's! I took my h pipe off for an off rd h pipe.BIG TIME low end torque loss. I put the stock h back on. Same thing with the headers, I put FMS unequal shorties on and noticed a low end torque loss.. ( i kept those on though ) After I had some Thumper heads put on I put a catted x on. So the factory H and headers work "BEST" for performance till you get over 260HP. Just my 2 cents

Snikt89GT · Oct 10, 2006

I don't know if I would buy used headers again. I baught used Mac headers a few years ago and they wouldn't fit at all. They were all warped.

CarFreakGT · Oct 10, 2006

They're a little pricier, but I put FRPP unequal shorties on my 89 along w/ a BBK catted h-pipe and Flows. Sounded very nice. I liked the FRPP's because they had a thick one-piece flange. So, if I needed to take them off I wouldn't have the fitment issues from warping. I don't remember how BBK's are (single flange or individual flanges), but I remember searching when I bought my FRPP's and saw a lot of people complaining about headers w/ individual flanges at the manifold warping. Thus, if you ever take them off you may have a hard time getting them back on.

FWIW, I have no personal experience w/ BBK headers, but my h-pipe from them was a nice piece w/ quality material.

billison · Oct 10, 2006

ok, because i have a chance to to trade my stockers for the bbk shorties, you think i should pass till i get other stuff done, but in the tech list for things to get done and when it says, sub frames, gears and exhaust, but if it's gonna make me lose the low end , but to be honest i just wanna make it sound better, tring to sell it, want a classic or maybe a efi fox

Dean85GT · Oct 10, 2006

if your trading for stockers then do it! You cant even give away stock headers

85_SS_302_Coupe · Oct 10, 2006

Any header with individual flanges will heat warp...so buying them used you have to know there's a chance of them not fitting right....but then again, you have that same chance when you buy them new yourself and then use them for a while and have to take them off...they may not want to go back on.

DRock9 · Oct 10, 2006

My car is completely stock, and I was just about to buy a Mac O/R H pipe but if it is going to make me lose power then i don't want to put it on. I want the sound of a loud car though and I figured taking the cats off was the easiest way to do it, cheaper than a cat-back too. But taking into account the info said in this thread, buying an O/R H as my first mod to the car would be a bad decision, correct?

Thanks!

billison · Oct 10, 2006

can anyone tell me why i'm NOT getting my post emails, i have to check it for post, it sucks

HISSIN50 · Oct 10, 2006

billison said:
can anyone tell me why i'm NOT getting my post emails, i have to check it for post, it sucks

Go to:

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Then select the notification setting you desire.

billison · Oct 10, 2006

yeah i've changed it a twice, but i get them sometimes, and sometimes not, i think it's my isp

billison · Oct 11, 2006

Ok, so should i do it or not?

CarFreakGT · Oct 11, 2006

billison said:
ok, because i have a chance to to trade my stockers for the bbk shorties, you think i should pass till i get other stuff done, but in the tech list for things to get done and when it says, sub frames, gears and exhaust, but if it's gonna make me lose the low end , but to be honest i just wanna make it sound better, tring to sell it, want a classic or maybe a efi fox

How soon do you want to sell it? ASAP? In a year or two? If you are going to sell it very soon, I say it's 50/50 if I would do it. It's not difficult to get headers on, but some parts of it can be tedious and frustrating (especially if the flanges are warped). If you're going to run an ad as soon as you put these on, it seem like a lot of trouble to me. I don't know that you'll really notice a great difference in the sound.

As far as gears and SFC's, I don't know if that's in your plan, or if you are just mentioning it. If you're selling the car soon, you're not going to get your money back out of those things unless you get them free or dirt cheap as well. Especially if you pay for labor as well. You'd be surprised how many people are looking for a STOCK Fox Mustang.

CarFreakGT · Oct 11, 2006

billison said:
tring to sell it, want a classic or maybe a efi fox

I'm confused. Your sig. says that you're switching to carb. But you want fuel injection? What year do you have now?

billison · Oct 11, 2006

my car is a 85 cfi, cfi is crap, so i put a intake and carb on,and i'm still going to get some things finished on the car, but realized a few months ago that when all is done and finished it's till not going to be what i want, i love the car and i wish i would have realized that when i started, but nothing i can do about that, so i'm going to spend the winter getting everything cleaned up and getting everything running good so i can sell it, cuz if i sell it now i'd get 10 bucks cuz i'm in the middle of everything, so i'm gonna finish what i can and then sell it, anyway i thought a good set of headers would help the sound and help the sell

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