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  • Start date Start date May 22, 2010

salprint

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So last week I installed Magnapaks and K&N CAI and kept the stock tune on my '09 GT. I drove it all week back and forth to work and got on it once or twice and everything seemed fine. Today I got on it in second gear and not sure of the rpm, but at about 4000, I think, it shut down and went into limp mode. I pulled to the side of the road and shut the engine and waited a few minutes. Started it up and everything seemed fine. I got on it again on the way home and it didn't seem to be any problem, although I don't think I got it up to the same rpm as I did the other time. What caused that? Is there something wrong? Do I need to do a tune? Should I take it to the dealer and will they just tell me that it's because I installed aftermarket stuff and charge me for repairs?
 

Zora

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Tune.....not a good ideal running the S197 without a tune after the CAI, exhaust change.
 

walter

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+1 what intake did you put on the car? your car is running really lean.
 

SpartaPerformance

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Mufflers without a tune isn't a problem BUT a CAI without a tune is an issue!
 

salprint

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SpartaPerformance said:
Mufflers without a tune isn't a problem BUT a CAI without a tune is an issue!
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Ok...so how do I go about getting a tune now? I'm sorry, but I'm new to all this CAI and tune stuff. When I read about the CAI on K&N's website, I thought I understood that the unit I bought did not require a tune. In the instructions it just says to disconnect the battery before installing so the computer will adjust when you go to restart.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
 
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Buy a tuner, they will ask you what you got in the way of mods.
 

SpartaPerformance

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The K&N filter like other that "say" they require not tune should have a little piece that goes inside the filter to make the system work. Did you put that piece in? You will need to purchase a hand held tuner such as an SCT Xcal3, when purchasing the device you will be asked for PCM number and list of mods.
 

salprint

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SpartaPerformance said:
The K&N filter like other that "say" they require not tune should have a little piece that goes inside the filter to make the system work. Did you put that piece in? You will need to purchase a hand held tuner such as an SCT Xcal3, when purchasing the device you will be asked for PCM number and list of mods.
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Didn't put any little piece in the filter. Don't even remember it being mentioned in the instructions. I got in touch with K&N and they say they will get back to me shortly. Maybe the little piece is what they want to talk about.
Thanks for the help.
 

NastyStang113

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Going to need a tune, the dealer won't be able to do anything for you. Look into a reputable tuner like VMP Tuning.

VMP Tuning - Buy Ford SCT & GM Custom Handheld Flash Tuners Performance Economy Towing: Custom Tuned SCT X3 Flash Tuner for Ford Vehicle from VMP
 

salprint

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NastyStang113 said:
Going to need a tune, the dealer won't be able to do anything for you. Look into a reputable tuner like VMP Tuning.

VMP Tuning - Buy Ford SCT & GM Custom Handheld Flash Tuners Performance Economy Towing: Custom Tuned SCT X3 Flash Tuner for Ford Vehicle from VMP
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Thanks
 

salprint

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Got in touch with K&N and they are sending me a new intake tube. They say I have an older version and there has been an update. They also said I should be using 92 or higher octane. I've been using 89 only because of the cost. I guess I'll wait and see how it goes with the new intake tube before I invest in a programmer.
 

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I have the K&N CAI, and it should be the same size intake tube where the MAF connects inline. I bought it for that reason: you don't need a tune and shouldn't have to run premium (I never do). Just make sure everything is tight, I have an issue where the connection at the throttle-body loosens occasionally. I check it periodically to make sure.

It's essentially putting a cone filter on your car. There's not really any HP advantage until you get a tune, it just sounds better.
 
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