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C&L MAF, Inlet tube, Intake Plenum, and BBK t/b

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03gtmustang

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Im planning on getting the c&l maf, inlet tube, intake plenum, and a bbk t/b, but with the increased air flow ill need to upgrade my fuel injectors right? I dont want a chip yet so which fuel injectors would i get. If i dont get any injectors and i get all the c&l stuff my car will be running rich or lean right? Are upgraded injectors really necessary? What lbs should i get?

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Got some new ideas....

1. Tokico suspension kit
C&L MAF
C&L Inlet Tube
C&L Intake Plenum
BBK T/B

2. Tokico suspension kit
C&L MAF
C&L Intake Plenum
BBK T/B
Trans-Go Shift Kit

Idea 1 or idea 2??? Still need advice on those injectors.
 

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You won't need bigger injectors with those mods. I would go with idea 2
 

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If those are the only mods your stock injectors will be fine and I like option 2 also...
 
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Will I need any kind of tune for these mods? MAF, T/b, intake plenum, shift kit...
 

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I don't think so, I would wait until you get all your boltons done before you get your tune. Also make sure you get the C&L calibrated for the stock 19 lbs injectors.
 
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FYI...you'll probably wind up running lean. I wound up running lean with similar mods and SES light got thrown. I put the stock MAF back on (with K&N filter inside and no silencer). I plan to put MAF back on when I get a tune this spring.
 

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I actually ended up getting richer as a pose to getting more lean.

I have the exact set up you're refering to in option #1.

There are no worries about calibration for the C&L Maf for your car, feel free to snag the 85mm one for your year. It reuses your stock maf electronics.
 
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Do you guys recomend these mods? If you could do it over again would you still go with the plenum, t/b, and maf?
 

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I've put on the exact same mods minus the plenum(see sig) and have had no problems. Still using stock injectors. Just be sure to reset your comp. and to give it a few driving cycles to relearn the changes. BTW car still averages 23.5 to 25.6 MPG.
 
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Is the inlet tube really worth it???
 

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Personally, I get stuff in conjunction, just because I'm weird like that, so I wouldn't skip it myself and I think it's worth having a complete set rather than still using some stock parts in a series of mods that can easily go with each other. If that makes any sense.

Performance wise, I wouldn't know, I threw on the C&L Plenum, Intake Pipe, 85mm MAF, BBK 75mm TB at the same time.

I guess it's worth it, though, apparently my numbers are a little higher than what most would expect.
 

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Is the inlet tube really worth it???
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Not sure, since I bought and installed all at the same time. When I bought the stuff it came as part of the package, so I figured what the heck.
 
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Yeah..... my overall goal is to get enough bolt ons to keep up with a stock 03 Mach 1. I think these mods plus what I have right now should do it for me??
 
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Will I need new fuel injectors with the plenum, maf, t/b, and inlet tube?
 

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03gtmustang said:
Will I need new fuel injectors with the plenum, maf, t/b, and inlet tube?
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No.
 

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You will not keep up with a mach 1 with these mods, sorry to burst your bubble. You do need some LCAs and Subframes, maybe some UCAs.
 

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if you are going to spend that much money get a set of cams and a tune, that is the direction i am heading. i actually got rid of my c&l maf
 

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1sweetGT said:
I don't think so, I would wait until you get all your boltons done before you get your tune. Also make sure you get the C&L calibrated for the stock 19 lbs injectors.
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He has 21 lb injectors. Like was said before: the C/L uses the stock maf sensor
 
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sapperstang78 said:
He has 21 lb injectors. Like was said before: the C/L uses the stock maf sensor
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99+ comes with 19lb injectors stock. If you are planning on doing a shift kit maybe look into Jerry's mod first. Costs almost nothing. I think thats the way i would go if i had an auto. Also, may want to think about a gear. 4.10 would probably give you better results than dropping all the money on the C&L stuff. Just my .02. Good luck
 

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yeah i got 4.10's with the transgo shift kit and it's astounding what a difference it made.

also, when I do my head swap, i'll be getting the C&L plenum and 75mm tb. i've already got the C&L maf with a homemade denscharger CAI and I noticed a nice little SOTP gain. More than what people say it gives (which they say is nothing). My timeslips proved the naysayers wrong.
 
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