Car runs, but then won't...

Ozz

I think I have a problem here.
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Been having issues getting my car running after some winter upgrades. After it was all back together, it would fire up and run/idle fine. My first problem was that after letting it run for a while, after being shut down it wouldn't want to start again until it cooled off a little. I reinstalled the distributor and set my timing to 12, and was able to get it to the point where it would start again after running and being shut down.

I last had it running this afternoon, but when I went back to it this evening it would no longer start.

Part of my winter projects included lengthening the TFI module harness and the 8pin connector on the main harness. If there were problems w/my wiring work, I suspect I'd have had trouble getting it started at all to begin with. Would that be correct?

The fuel pump is working, fuel is reaching where it has to go, I have spark at the cap & plugs, battery power and grounds are fine, timing is correct, and as far as I keep checking to be sure but am finding no engine grounds to be bad.

I'm letting it cool down (and injectors dry) for the night so I thought I'd look for ideas here in the meantime. If that doesn't help I was going to pull the TFI (a Motorcraft from Advance that's about 3 years old) and have it tested at the store. I don't THINK that could be it, but I'm not so sure it can't be either. I feel it's worth having tested unless someone can tell me otherwise why that isn't so.

I haven't got any noid lights to test the injector harnesses but I plan to find some tomorrow so I can test them.

What I find peculiar is that it was running perfectly, on and off, and now it won't even start. I do have gas in it...:lol: Something electrical seems to be messing with me...

Any thoughts while I give it some rest? This is killing me by this point.
 
Two thoughts so far:

Either the wiring or TFI is defective (yes it can be intermittent) particularly the ground wire(s).

Your fuel pump is tired and bypassing internally.


What was the reason for the TFI harness mod? Did you relocate it?
 
Two thoughts so far:

Either the wiring or TFI is defective (yes it can be intermittent) particularly the ground wire(s).

Your fuel pump is tired and bypassing internally.


What was the reason for the TFI harness mod? Did you relocate it?

I moved the main harness out of the engine bay, which led to lengthening the TFI harness. The extensions I made are solid, but I can't say for sure nothing else is wrong w/the harness itself. It was OK to start out with. Where does that harness ground out - at the PCM, one of the pins, or elsewhere? Might the shielding that is wrapped up in it in stock form have anything to do with it? I didn't remove that, but I didn't add any either.
 
I moved the main harness out of the engine bay, which led to lengthening the TFI harness. The extensions I made are solid, but I can't say for sure nothing else is wrong w/the harness itself. It was OK to start out with. Where does that harness ground out - at the PCM, one of the pins, or elsewhere? Might the shielding that is wrapped up in it in stock form have anything to do with it? I didn't remove that, but I didn't add any either.

So long as the wires are insulated, then shielding shouldn't make that much of a difference. Did you solder all of the connections you made?
 
All wires are insulated and all connections were soldered.

If you own an ohm meter, I would disconnect the TFI and trace the wires (battery disconnected) on both end of your splice.

Start the car and wait for it to die. Repeat the process and refer to the notes you took.

Short of that, you're going to need a good wiring diagram for your car and see which wires run to where. I suspect that something in the splices you made may be cold soldered or something (spit balling here not bagging on your soldering skillzorz).

If you can't find anything then swap the TFI. Testing them seems to be useless as they're notorious for screwing up intermittently. Check the blade connectors where the TFI slides up into the dizzy as well.

Another possibility is the PIP in the dizzy. If you have access to another, it wouldn't be a bad idea to swap it and see if you still have the same problem.
 
I had a meter but can't find the thing. WIll have to get my mitts on another in order to test the TFI harness as you described. I've got a shop manual I can dust off for the wiri avaing diagram, and of course the usual access to the diagrams hosted at veryuseful.net, etc. to tell me what's what when I can have the mind to read through it and pick it all apart.

The TFI was one of my first thoughts, though I've only experienced them dying out while the car did start. RIght now I can't even get to that point.

Naturally I have no other PIP to easily swap out either, so that'll be another purchase to go make unless I can scrounge one somewhere in order to rule it out.

Thanks for the input and thoughts tonight :flag:
 
Just a quick thought, get the TFI tested at the parts store, wont take more than 2 minutes and costs nothing. Use an ohm meter to check the TFI plug to the computer and you can pretty much eliminate that whole thing being your issue and start looking else where. Finding out whether you're losing spark or fuel may help narrow it down. Replacing the PIP sensor would be a pain in the ass, almost easier to just try a new distributor. What kind of distributor is it? I also believe Joe has a test for the PIP sensor somewhere around here.
 
When its hot & won't start, do the checklist...

Cranks OK, but No Start Checklist for Fuel Injected Mustangs

A word about this checklist before you start: it is arranged in a specific order to put the most likely failure items first. That will save you time, energy and money. Start at the top of the list and work your way down. Jumping around will possibly cause you to miss just what you need to see to find and fix the problem. Don’t skip any steps because the next step depends on the last step working correctly.


Revised 12-Dec-2011 to replace 10 pin salt & pepper connector graphic.

All text applies to all models unless stated otherwise.

Note: 94-95 specific changes are in red

1.) Remove push on connector (small red/blue wire) from starter solenoid and turn ignition switch to the Run position. Place car in neutral or Park and set the parking brake. Remove the coil wire from distributor & and hold it 3/8” away from the engine block. Jumper the screw to the big bolt on the starter solenoid that has the battery wire connected to it. You should get a nice fat blue spark.
Most of the items are electrical in nature, so a test light, or even better, a voltmeter, is helpful to be sure they have power to them.

No spark, possible failed items in order of their probability:
A.) MSD or Crane ignition box if so equipped
B.) PIP sensor in distributor. The PIP sensor supplies the timing pulse to trigger the TFI and injectors. A failing PIP sensor will sometimes let the engine start if the SPOUT is removed. See paragraph 5A – Using a noid light will tell if the PIP is working by flashing when the engine is cranking.
C.) TFI module: use a test light to check the TFI module. Place one lead of the test light on the red/green wire on the ignition coil connector and the other lead on the dark green/yellow wire on the ignition coil connector. If the TFI is working properly, the test light will flash when the engine is cranked using the ignition switch.
D.) Coil
E.) No EEC or computer power - EEC or computer relay failure
86-93 models only: EEC relay next to computer - look for 12 volts at the fuel injector red wires.
94-95 models only: EEC or PCM power relay in the constant control relay module. Look for 12 volts at the fuel injector red wires.
Both 86-93 and 94-95 models: No 12 volts with the ignition switch in the run position on the fuel injector red wires. The relay has failed or there is no power coming from the ignition switch. Make sure that there is 12 volts on the red/green wire on the coil before replacing the relay.
F.) No EEC or computer power - fuse or fuse link failure
86-93 models only: Fuse links in wiring harness - look for 12 volts at the fuel injector red wires. All the fuse links live in a bundle up near the starter solenoid. Look for a 20 gauge blue fuse link connected to 2 black/orange 14 gauge wires.
94-95 models only: 20 amp EEC fuse in the engine compartment fuse box. Look for 12 volts at the fuel injector red wires.
G.) Ignition switch - look for 12 volts at the ignition coil red/lt green wire. No 12 volts, blown fuse link or faulty ignition switch. Remove the plastic from around the ignition switch and look for 12 volts on the red/green wire on the ignition switch with it in the Run position. No 12 volts and the ignition switch is faulty. If 12 volts is present in the Run position at the ignition switch but not at the coil, then the fuse or fuse link is blown.
Note: fuses or fuse links blow for a reason. Don’t replace either a fuse or fuse link with one with a larger rating than stock. Doing so invites an electrical fire.
Ignition fuse links may be replaced with an inline fuse holder and 5 amp fuse for troubleshooting purposes.
94-95 models only: Check inside fuse panel for fuse #18 blown – 20 amp fuse
H.) Missing or loose computer power ground. The computer has its own dedicated power ground that comes off the ground pigtail on the battery ground wire. Due to it's proximity to the battery, it may become corroded by acid fumes from the battery.
In 86-90 model cars, it is a black cylinder about 2 1/2" long by 1" diameter with a black/lt green wire.
In 91-95 model cars it is a black cylinder about 2 1/2" long by 1" diameter with a black/white wire.
You'll find it up next to the starter solenoid where the wire goes into the wiring harness
I.) Computer.
J.) Bad or missing secondary power ground. It is located between the back of the intake manifold and the driver's side firewall. It supplies ground for the alternator, A/C compressor clutch and other electrical accessories such as the gauges.
K.) Engine fires briefly, but dies immediately when the key is released to the Run position. Crank the engine & when it fires off, pull the small push on connector (red wire) off the starter relay (Looks like it is stuck on a screw). Hold the switch in the crank position: if it continues to run there is a problem with either the ignition switch or TFI module. Check for 12 volts at the red/green wire on the coil with the switch in the Run position. Good 12 volts, then replace the TFI. No 12 volts, replace the ignition switch.

Wiring Diagrams:

See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer) & Stang&2Birds (website host) for help on 88-95 wiring Mustang FAQ - Engine Information Everyone should bookmark this site.

Ignition switch wiring
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/IgnitionSwitchWiring.gif

Fuel, alternator, A/C and ignition wiring
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/fuel-alt-links-ign-ac.gif

Complete computer, actuator & sensor wiring diagram for 88-91 Mass Air Mustangs
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/88-91_5.0_EEC_Wiring_Diagram.gif

Complete computer, actuator & sensor wiring diagram for 91-93 Mass Air Mustangs
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/91-93_5.0_EEC_Wiring_Diagram.gif

Complete computer, actuator & sensor wiring diagram for 94-95 Mass Air Mustangs
http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/94-95_5.0_EEC_Wiring_Diagram.gif


AutoZone wiring diagrams: You can navigate to the diagrams yourself via Repair Info | AutoZone.com and select the car year, make, model and engine. That will enable you to bring up the wiring diagram for your particular car.

2.) Spark at coil wire, pull #1 plug wire off at the spark plug and check to see spark. No spark, possible failed items in order of their probability: [/b]
A.) Moisture inside distributor – remove cap, dry off & spray with WD40
B.) Distributor cap
C.) Rotor
D.) Spark Plug wires
E.) Coil weak or intermittent - you should see 3/8" fat blue spark with a good coil

3.) Spark at spark plug, but no start.
Next, get a can of starting fluid (ether) from your local auto parts store: costs a $1.30 or so. Then pull the air duct off at the throttle body elbow, open the throttle, and spray the ether in it. Reconnect the air duct and try to start the car. Do not try to start the car without reconnecting the air duct.

Two reasons:
1.) If it backfires, the chance for a serious fire is increased.
2.) On Mass Air cars, the computer needs to measure the MAF flow once the engine starts.
If it starts then, you have a fuel management issue. Continue the checklist with emphasis of fuel related items that follow. If it doesn’t, then it is a computer or timing issue: see Step 4.

Clue – listen for the fuel pump to prime when you first turn the ignition switch on. It should run for 5-20 seconds and shut off. To trick the fuel pump into running, find the EEC test connector and jump the connector in the Upper RH corner to ground. The EEC connector is near the wiper motor and LH hood hinge.

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If the relay & inertia switch are OK, you will have power to the pump. Check fuel pressure – remove the cap from the Schrader valve behind the alternator and depress the core. Fuel should squirt out, catch it in a rag. Beware of fire hazard when you do this. In a pinch, you can use a tire pressure gauge to measure the fuel pressure. It may not be completely accurate, but you will have some clue as to how much pressure you have. If you have any doubts about having sufficient fuel flow/pressure, rent a fuel pressure test gauge from the auto parts store. That will tell you for sure if you have adequate fuel pressure.


4.) No fuel pressure, possible failed items in order of their probability:
A.) Tripped inertia switch – Coupe & hatch cars hide it under the plastic trim covering the driver's side taillight. Use the voltmeter or test light to make sure you have power to both sides of the switch
B.) Fuel pump power relay – located under the driver’s seat in most stangs built before 92. On 92 and later model cars it is located below the Mass Air Flow meter. Look for 12 volts at the Pink/Black wire on the fuel pump relay.
C.) Clogged fuel filter
D.) Failed fuel pump
E.) 86-90 models only: Blown fuse link in wiring harness. Look for 12 volts at the Orange/Lt Blue wire on the fuel pump relay.
91-93 models only Blown fuse link in wiring harness. Look for 12 volts at the Pink/Black wire on the fuel pump relay.
The fuse links for all model years 86-93 live in the wiring harness near the starter solenoid.
94-95 models only: 20 amp fuel pump fuse in the engine compartment fuse box. Look for 12 volts at the Dark green/yellow wire on the constant control relay module.
F.) Engine seem to load up on fuel and may have black smoke at the tailpipe. Fuel pressure regulator failed. Remove the vacuum line from the regulator and inspect for fuel escaping while the pump is running. If fuel is coming out the vacuum port, the regulator has failed. Check the regulator vacuum line for fuel too. Disconnect it from the engine and blow air though it. If you find gas, the regulator has failed.

5.) Fuel pressure OK, the injectors are not firing.
A.) The PIP sensor in the distributor tells the computer when to fire the injectors. A failing PIP sensor will sometimes let the engine start if the SPOUT is removed.
A noid light available from any auto parts store, is one way to test the injector circuit to see if the injectors are firing. The noid light plugs into the fuel injector harness in place of any easily accessible injector. Plug it in and try to start the engine: it will flash if the injector is firing.
B.) I like to use an old injector with compressed air applied to the injector where the fuel rail would normally connect. I hook the whole thing up, apply compressed air to the injector and stick it in a paper cup of soapy water. When the engine cranks with the ignition switch on, if the injector fires, it makes bubbles. Cheap if you have the stuff laying around, and works good too.
D.) Pull an injector wire connector off and look for 12 volts on the red wire when the ignition switch is on.
E.) No power, then look for problems with the 10 pin connecter (salt & pepper shakers at the rear of the upper manifold).

See the graphic for the 10 pin connector circuit layout.
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The injector power pin is the VPWR pin in the black 10 pin connector.


F.) No power and the 10 pin connections are good: look for broken wiring between the orange/black wire on the EEC relay and the red wire for the 10 pin connectors.
G.) TPS voltage exceeds 3.7 volts with the throttle closed. This will shut off the injectors, since the computer uses this strategy to clear a flooded engine. Use a DVM, a pair of safety pins, and probe the black/white and green wires to measure the TPS voltage.
On a 94-95 Mustang, probe the black/white and grey/white wires to measure the TPS voltage.
It should be .5-.1.0 volts with the key on, engine not running. Note that if the black/white wire (signal ground) has a bad connection, you will get some strange readings. Make a second measurement using the battery post as the ground to eliminate any ground problems. If the readings are different by more than 5%, you may have a high resistance condition in the black/white signal ground circuit.

6.) Spark & fuel pressure OK.
A.) Failed IAB or improperly set base idle (no airflow to start engine). Press the throttle ¼ way down and try to start the car. See the "Surging Idle Checklist for help with all your idle/stall problems.
B.) Failed computer (not very likely)
C.) Engine ignition or cam timing off: only likely if the engine has been worked on recently. If you removed the distributor, there is a good probability that you installed it 180 degrees out of time.
D.) Firing order off: HO & 351 use a different firing order from the non HO engines.
HO & 351W 1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8
Non HO 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8
E.) No start when hot - Press the throttle to the floor & try starting it if you get this far. If it starts, replace the ECT.
F. ) Engine that has had the heads off or valves adjusted. Do a compression test to make sure the valves are not adjusted too tight. You should have a minimum of 90 PSI on a cold engine.
 
Here's something possibly interesting and telling: I'll revisit the entire series of events since the hot start is no longer my issue. I realize how I could've confused some.

Weekend: Hot start problems were present. Also noticed that when I shifted into gear, I'd lose the idle and the car would die out. Messed w/the timing and was able to work out the "stalls when shifting" problem.

Yesterday morning: I wasn't certain that my timing was correct, so I set TDC and stabbed distributor, ran car and set timing properly. Hot start problems were no longer happening after this. I could run it, shut it down, and start it up again all morning long without an issue.

Yesterday afternoon: I tried shifting into gear a couple times back and forth to make sure it wouldn't stall out on me again like it did last week. It didn't stall out on me. After I was satisfied with that, I let the car continue to idle for a while and then shut it down for most the day.

Yesterday evening: went back out to the garage to start it up, no luck. It was as if I had no spark, fuel reaching the plugs, or fuel at all in the car. I couldn't get it started cold no matter what. I checked for spark at the cap, plugs, and coil. All is well. Checked for battery and engine grounds yet again and again saw nothing out of the ordinary. S&P shakers were tight and connected. Checked the solenoid again for a good, tight ground, no loose wires, etc. Only thing I did not do was any resistance testing as I didn't have the tools on me to do so.

This morning: I've got a 4R70W and have had an issue before where I was parked on a hill and the shifter didn't fully engage the transmission into Park when I parked it. The result was an endlessly cranking no-start issue like I'm seeing here. So this morning I went out, put the shifter solidly into park, and started it up.

It idled fine and I even pulled a vac line to make the idle jump (it did). So I put it back and let the car idle for half an hour. Went back out, shut it down, restarted it without issue. Shut it down after a few seconds and restarted it again without issue. Repeat a couple times and everything was still good. I wanted to make sure the hot start problem wasn't around again.

So that's where I'm at right now, with no issues getting it started so far today. I'm letting it sit after all of the above to see if it'll start up again after running to temp, being shut down, and sitting. Basically replicating the scenario from yesterday to see if I can recreate the issues. I'll report back with my findings. If I have troubles I'll pull the TFI and run it to Advance during lunchtime to be tested a few times on their tester machine. Thankfully I work at home so I can keep going back out for a few minutes at a time to check little things. Have to wait until the evening of course to be able to really tinker...


I'm somewhat familiar w/the common no-start causes and am certainly familiar w/JRichker's awesome checklists. Been there/done that in the past many times :rlaugh: Even still, over the past few days I've spent a ton of time searching here and elsewhere for similar issues, and of course running across his checklists in numerous threads. With that, I did refresh my memory w/the info outlined and went through it all again just to be sure. The only thing I didn't do yet was the noid light testing @ injectors. Of course, all of the threads I found and read up on all had problems that were resolved by fixing things I've already checked and confirmed to not be the problem. Here's some feedback to the checklist based on what I've done already (in bold/red):

When its hot & won't start, do the checklist...

Cranks OK, but No Start Checklist for Fuel Injected Mustangs

1.) Remove push on connector (small red/blue wire) from starter solenoid and turn ignition switch to the Run position. Place car in neutral or Park and set the parking brake. Remove the coil wire from distributor & and hold it 3/8” away from the engine block. Jumper the screw to the big bolt on the starter solenoid that has the battery wire connected to it. You should get a nice fat blue spark.
SPARK IS PRESENT

3.) Spark at spark plug, but no start.
Clue – listen for the fuel pump to prime when you first turn the ignittion switch on. It should run for 5-20 seconds and shut off. To trick the fuel pump into running, find the EEC test connector and jump the connector in the Upper RH corner to ground. The EEC connector is near the wiper motor and LH hood hinge.
FUEL PUMP PRIMES NORMALLY AT 'KEY ON' EACH TIME. Also pulled a plug last night to ensure fuel was reaching it, and this was confirmed. Intertia switch is also OK.

4.) No fuel pressure, possible failed items in order of their probability:
FUEL PRESSURE IS PRESENT AND AT MY USUAL 40* ON MY GAUGE @ SCHRADER VALVE

5.) Fuel pressure OK, the injectors are not firing.
A.) The PIP sensor in the distributor tells the computer when to fire the injectors. A failing PIP sensor will sometimes let the engine start if the SPOUT is removed.
LAST NIGHT, THE CAR WOULDN'T START W/ THE SPOUT REMOVED EITHER.
A noid light available from any auto parts store, is one way to test the injector circuit to see if the injectors are firing. The noid light plugs into the fuel injector harness in place of any easily accessible injector. Plug it in and try to start the engine: it will flash if the injector is firing.
I HAD NO NOID LIGHT SET AT THE TIME, AND WAS PLANNING TO PICK SOME UP TODAY TO CHECK THIS. Since I've had no issues w/the car so far today and it's possible that my shifter was the issue (still testing that theory, mind you), I'll put this off for now but will come right back to it if necessary.

6.) Spark & fuel pressure OK.
A.) Failed IAB or improperly set base idle (no airflow to start engine). Press the throttle ¼ way down and try to start the car. See the "Surging Idle Checklist for help with all your idle/stall problems.
E.) No start when hot - Press the throttle to the floor & try starting it if you get this far. If it starts, replace the ECT.
PRESSING THROTTLE DIDN'T HELP LAST NIGHT WHEN CAR WOULDN'T START. EVEN HOLDING AT WOT DIDN'T HELP. HAD TO TRY...

C.) Engine ignition or cam timing off: only likely if the engine has been worked on recently. If you removed the distributor, there is a good probability that you installed it 180 degrees out of time.
AS STATED ABOVE, TIMING/DIST. WERE SET RIGHT YESTERDAY TO START THINGS OFF ON A PROPER FOOT 'JUST IN CASE'.

D.) Firing order off: HO & 351 use a different firing order from the non HO engines.
FIRING ORDER RESET & DOUBLE-CHECKED WHEN DIST. WAS REINSTALLED

F. ) Engine that has had the heads off or valves adjusted. Do a compression test to make sure the valves are not adjusted too tight. You should have a minimum of 90 PSI on a cold engine.
HEADS WERE NOT OFF
 
Took the TFI off and ran it around the corner to Advance. It was tested as faulty, so I grabbed a replacement. Put it on but the car isn't acting any differently whatsoever. :shrug:
 
So at 11:30am I put the new TFI module on and couldn't start it. I left it alone until just now. I put a set of noid lights on and tested 3 injectors so far, all successfully. During the test, the car started (injector harness off the #2 injector at this point). So I shut it down, put the injector harness plug back in place, and it was able to be started again right after. I currently have it idling again and it's still sounding nice and smooth.

I also picked up a new voltmeter while I was out, so later on when I have the time I'll check the resistance on the TFI harness. I'm guessing when the evening rolls around, the car won't be giving me any troubles at that time. :rolleyes:
 
Was going to do that and ran into a problem w/the coolant hose coming off the heater core tubes. Got to mend that defect before I can try to start it up again otherwise coolant will spew up through it :doh: As if I wasn't having enough trouble yet...
 
In my experience, that usually means that I'm getting very close to fixing the initial problem. If that's the case, I can deal with that. It wouldn't be such a bad thing if my heater core tubes weren't chromed, so if I can't mend it on my own I'll have to wait until I can get a suitable replacement.
 
For the record, having the tfi tested doesn't always work, since it fails intermitten (most of them when hot) the likelyhood that it's hot when you carry it into advancedauto is unlikely. So they usually work.
 
For the record, having the tfi tested doesn't always work, since it fails intermitten (most of them when hot) the likelyhood that it's hot when you carry it into advancedauto is unlikely. So they usually work.

On that note, I brought it back this morning to be tested again. They did it 7 times for me and each came back w/o faults. So I returned the one i bought yesterday. Came back home, capped off the coolant line that blew (it was the one from the heater core tubes to the EGR spacer), put the original TFI back on, and started it up. It ran OK and kept starting each time I tried after I shut it down.

So with that, I'm back to having no issues w/it not wanting to start. I'm going to keep trying it throughout the day to see if it decides to give me trouble again.
 
The shifter/transmission thought didn't pan out but i think I've narrowed it down to something on the solenoid. I took it apart and bolted it back together, and since then I've had no issues getting it to start either when hot, cold, or after having sat for 30-60 min. after running for 15-20. Those situations were troublesome before but aren't now.

One other issue - When I shut the key off, the car runs for about 2 seconds before it shuts down. Anyone haves clue about that? It was happening prior to taking the solenoid apart, FWIW. I don't seen to have any vacuum leaks and the idle surges when I remove a line from the tree. None are loose, broken, disconnected, etc.



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No Crank checklist for 5.0 Mustangs

Revised 05-Oct-2010 to update Fluke references.

No crank. slow crank and stuck starter solenoid problems have the same root causes – low battery voltage and poor connections. For that reason, they are grouped together.
Use the same initial group of tests to find the root cause of both no crank and stuck solenoid problems.

Since some of the tests will bypass the safety interlocks, make sure that the car is in neutral and the parking brake is set. Becoming a pancake isn’t part of the repair process…


1.) Will the car start if it is jumped? Then clean battery terminals and check battery for low charge and dead cells. A good battery will measure 12-13 volts at full charge with the ignition switch in the Run position but without the engine running.
A voltmeter placed across the battery terminals should show a minimum of 9.5-10 volts when the ignition switch is turned to the Start position and the starter engages or tries to engage. Less than this will result in a clicking solenoid, or slow cranking (if it cranks at all) or a starter solenoid that sticks and welds the contacts together.

Most auto parts stores will check your battery for free. It does not have to be installed in the car to have it checked; you can carry it with you to the auto parts store.

The battery posts and inside of the battery post terminals should be scraped clean with a knife or battery post cleaner tool. This little trick will fix a surprising number of no start problems.

The clamp on with 2 bolts battery terminal ends are a known problem causer. Any place you see green on a copper wire is corrosion. Corrosion gets in the clamped joint and works its way up the wire under the insulation. Corroded connections do not conduct electricity well. Avoid them like the plague...

If the starter solenoid welds the contacts, then the starter will attempt to run anytime there is power in the battery. The cables and solenoid will get very hot, and may even start smoking. The temporary fix for a welded starter solenoid is to disconnect the battery and smack the back of the solenoid housing a sharp blow with a hammer. This may cause the contacts to unstick and work normally for a while.

A voltmeter is handy if you are familiar with how to use it to find bad connections. Measure the voltage drop across a connection while trying to start the car: more than .5 volts across a connection indicates a problem. The voltage drop tests need to be done while cranking the engine. It's the current flowing through a connection or wire that causes the voltage drop.

See http://assets.fluke.com/appnotes/automotive/beatbook.pdf for help for help troubleshooting voltage drops across connections and components. .

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2.) Check the battery to engine block ground down near the oil filter, and the ground behind the engine to the firewall. All grounds should be clean and shiny. Use some sandpaper to clean them up.

3.) Jump the big terminals on the starter solenoid next to the battery with a screwdriver - watch out for the sparks! If the engine cranks, the starter and power wiring is good. The starter relay is also known as a starter solenoid.

The rest of the tech note only concerns no crank problems. If your problem was a stuck solenoid, go back to step 1.

4.) Then pull the small push on connector (small red/blue wire) off the starter solenoid (Looks like it is stuck on a screw). Then jump between the screw and the terminal that is connected to the battery. If it cranks, the relay is good and your problem is in the rest of the circuit.

5.) Remember to check the ignition switch, neutral safety switch on auto trans and the clutch safety switch on manual trans cars. If they are good, then you have wiring problems.

Typical start circuit...
Diagram courtesy of Tmoss & Stang&2birds
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6.) Pull the starter and take it to AutoZone or Pep Boys and have them test it. Starter fails test, then replace it. If you got this far, the starter is probably bad.


Starter solenoid wiring for 86-91 Mustang
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Starter solenoid wiring 92-93 Mustang or earlier Mustang with upgraded high torque mini starter.
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Electrical checks for the switches and starter solenoid

Remove the small red/blue wire from the starter solenoid. Use a screwdriver to bridge the connection from the battery positive connection on the starter solenoid to the small screw where the red/blue wire was connected. The starter should crank the engine. If it does not, the starter solenoid is defective or the battery lacks sufficient charge to crank the engine.

If the starter does crank the engine, the problem is in the clutch safety circuit (5 speed) or Neutral Sense Switch (auto trans) or ignition switch.


Typical start circuit...
Diagram courtesy of Tmoss & Stang&2birds
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You will need a voltmeter or test lamp for the rest of the checks. Connect one lead of the voltmeter or test lamp to ground. The other lead will connect to the item under test.
Look for 12 volts on the white/pink wire when the ignition switch is turned to the Start position. Check the ignition switch first.
No 12 volts, replace the ignition switch.

The next step will require you to push the clutch pedal to the floor (5 speed) or put the transmission in neutral (auto trans) while the ignition switch is turned to the Start position.
Good 12 volts, check the clutch safety switch (5 speed) or Neutral Sense Switch (auto trans) for good 12 volts on both sides of the switches. No 12 volts on both sides of the switch and the switches are defective or out of adjustment. Check the wiring for bad connections while you are at it.