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Caster issue after Bilstein install

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steve_stang2003

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The machines may be more accurate than hand tools, assuming regular calibration, however the problem is finding someone who actually knows how to use the machine properly.

These days most FWD cars only allow for toe adjustments, rarely camber and very rarely caster.

The angles are built into the design of the car.
If adjustment is needed due to an out of spec car, or for custom work, eccentric bolts, shims etc are needed.

Most cars aren't going to need that so the skills of the operator of the machine don't get utilized as much as in the old days with RWD cars.

Finding a person who can align a Mustang with caster camber plates and lowering springs etc is not easy.

One good method of finding a quality alignment shop is to talk to a collision place that works on high end cars and ask them who they use for their alignments.

That's how I found the place I use, and he was really good until he sold the business and the new owner ran it into the ground.

The biggest problem doing driveway adjustments is finding a level surface.
It can be done though.
 

hotcobra03

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steve_stang2003 said:
The machines may be more accurate than hand tools, assuming regular calibration, however the problem is finding someone who actually knows how to use the machine properly.

These days most FWD cars only allow for toe adjustments, rarely camber and very rarely caster.

The angles are built into the design of the car.
If adjustment is needed due to an out of spec car, or for custom work, eccentric bolts, shims etc are needed.

Most cars aren't going to need that so the skills of the operator of the machine don't get utilized as much as in the old days with RWD cars.

Finding a person who can align a Mustang with caster camber plates and lowering springs etc is not easy.

One good method of finding a quality alignment shop is to talk to a collision place that works on high end cars and ask them who they use for their alignments.

That's how I found the place I use, and he was really good until he sold the business and the new owner ran it into the ground.

The biggest problem doing driveway adjustments is finding a level surface.
It can be done though.
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very nice,,,

skills are whats missing these days...

its hard enough to get what you want at mc donalds these days let alone a mechanic...

i was a wrench for 20+yrs now i do wood flooring...it pays more than double and i dont have to look at the same four walls anymore..
 

trombonedemon

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hotcobra03 said:
very nice,,,

skills are whats missing these days...

and i dont have to look at the same four walls anymore..
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Darn straight, heck its hard to look at peoples cars that w/a little knowledge about there vehicles, could have saved a lot of heartache. Change, sometimes, isn't so bad.
 

merc123

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Got it done by the shop that I had do it before. Here's the specs:

LF // RF:
Camber: -1.6* // -1.4*
Caster: 3.7" // 3.1"
Toe: .13" // .14"
Cross Camber: -.2*
Cross caster: .6*
Total Toe: .26*
The only thing out of spec is camber. They recommend -1.3* so it's not too bad.
 

SaleenGT2001

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1.3 is the edge of acceptable.

i recommend -0.80 on both sides for normal street driving. expect some inner edge wear with the way it is now.

cheap fix is get 2 18mm camber bolts and install them. you can get at least another 0.75 movement and use the plates to fine tune it
 

SaleenGT2001

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according to the specs it should be drifting to the right also
 

merc123

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Yep, they said it was as close as they could get it. It actually doesn't drift at all that I've noticed. Steering is a tad bit more responsive to the right though. I've gotten about 40 or 50k out of my KM2's so I'm not too worried about wear right now. Especially considering I can't rotate them.
 
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