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Hunter-White

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Found this here in partshopper and it seems to be pretty cheap but then again I dont have much experience at all with plenums. What do you guys think?
C&L-711(A) 4.6 2V Plenum $154.95
 

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C&L are pretty good. There is an article or two on www.modulardepot.com comparing a few plenums. Accufab performed the best but not by much.
 

jasonh_86

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C&L are good plenums.. but ya can't go wrong with accufab
 
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flipnsac

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If you're on a tight budget (like most of us) you might be better off just getting an intake spacer for $40. Same HP claim for much less money:

http://www.mustangtuning.com/mu4gtinsp1.html
 

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Thanks alot man that would prolly do the trick. Would it be very wise to get TB to go along with the spacer?
 

stangman

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flipnsac said:
If you're on a tight budget (like most of us) you might be better off just getting an intake spacer for $40. Same HP claim for much less money:

http://www.mustangtuning.com/mu4gtinsp1.html
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ummm......NO. there's a BIG difference in a claim & being able to back it up. no spacer is gunna put down 8+rwhp
 

BennyBlown2v

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This is the same peice as the C&L under a different brand name... $50 cheaper...
 
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flipnsac

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stangman said:
ummm......NO. there's a BIG difference in a claim & being able to back it up. no spacer is gunna put down 8+rwhp
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I didn't say it was guaranteed to put down 8rwhp, just said it claimed to, just like the plenum ads do and the spacer ad does:

http://www.mustangtuning.com/mu4gtinsp1.html .

Only way to know for sure is a before & after dyno run. But if this guy was trying to save money on a cheap plenum, I was trying to give him a less expensive alternative. I've seen guys on this and other forums say they've dyno'd after installing after-market plenums and gottten only 1-2 rwhp, if that. Caveat Emptor.

Skeptics should address the advertisers not the messenger.
 

stangman

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flipnsac said:
I didn't say it was guaranteed to put down 8rwhp, just said it claimed to, just like the plenum ads do and the spacer ad does:

http://www.mustangtuning.com/mu4gtinsp1.html .

Only way to know for sure is a before & after dyno run. But if this guy was trying to save money on a cheap plenum, I was trying to give him a less expensive alternative. I've seen guys on this and other forums say they've dyno'd after installing after-market plenums and gottten only 1-2 rwhp, if that. Caveat Emptor.

Skeptics should address the advertisers not the messenger.
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the messenger apparently knows better, & shouldn't spread something he knows full well isn't true. & if ya want to get all technical like, very few dyno runs couldn't be argued after being done
 
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flipnsac

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stangman said:
the messenger apparently knows better, & shouldn't spread something he knows full well isn't true. & if ya want to get all technical like, very few dyno runs couldn't be argued after being done
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Man, have someone remove that hair up your a$$.

The truth is, I don't know for a fact whether or not the spacer helps to get 7-8rwhp. Stop putting words in other people's mouths. Like I said only dyno runs can prove it. This info is already on the internet on Mustang Tuning and Steeda's websites. Take your BS to them.
 

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flipnsac said:
Man, have someone remove that hair up your a$$.

The truth is, I don't know for a fact whether or not the spacer helps to get 7-8rwhp. Stop putting words in other people's mouths. Like I said only dyno runs can prove it. This info is already on the internet on Mustang Tuning and Steeda's websites. Take your BS to them.
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no said hair to be removed. i'm just stating it the way it is. if you don't like it, learn what your trying to talk about, come back, & try again skippy. & here is the problem with what you said...........

you said go get this product it has the same claims. the guy goes & gets it (hoping to save some money), realizes it didn't do anything, & then has to turn around & buy the right part. that's money spent twice. most people don't have the money to be spending twice. so ya see....i'm just looking out for him. & ya know what, i'd do the same for you if you posted a thread & someone else was spewing out misinformation
 

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BennyDaBall said:
This is the same peice as the C&L under a different brand name... $50 cheaper...
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For the few that care the C&L is designed and made in America. The GMS crap is a direct ripoff and their stuff almost always comes from China.

Not a big issue, just tossing it out there...
 

stangman

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Red35th said:
For the few that care the C&L is designed and made in America. The GMS crap is a direct ripoff and their stuff almost always comes from China.

Not a big issue, just tossing it out there...
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very good point, i like it
 

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Stangman- one not arguing with you. But how many people can feel a 5-8 hp increase? I know you can see it on the dyno or in track times but FEEL it?
Ok on the spacer deal here is a theroy I read most of the better aftermarket ones are taller the same as a stock plenum with a spacer. IF you were to port the peices to match would you get an increase in power? Just wondering since the spacer was already brought up.
 
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flipnsac

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stangman said:
no said hair to be removed. i'm just stating it the way it is. if you don't like it, learn what your trying to talk about, come back, & try again skippy. & here is the problem with what you said...........

you said go get this product it has the same claims. the guy goes & gets it (hoping to save some money), realizes it didn't do anything, & then has to turn around & buy the right part. that's money spent twice. most people don't have the money to be spending twice. so ya see....i'm just looking out for him. & ya know what, i'd do the same for you if you posted a thread & someone else was spewing out misinformation
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Please stop putting your words in other peoples' mouths. Your take is not what I said. Everyone has to make up their own mind in the end. (CAVEAT EMPTOR- MF) Now go away............. but before you do, prove to everyone that a spacer doesn't do what it's advertised to do. Otherwise, you are just spreading your assumptions.........and if your proof is backed up by facts, I will go along with it.
 

stangman

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flipnsac said:
Please stop putting your words in other peoples' mouths. Your take is not what I said. Everyone has to make up their own mind in the end. (CAVEAT EMPTOR- MF) Now go away............. but before you do, prove to everyone that a spacer doesn't do what it's advertised to do. Otherwise, you are just spreading your assumptions.........and if your proof is backed up by facts, I will go along with it.
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i'm not putting words in anyones mouth. you said it, didn't know what you were talking about, deal with it. i ain't mad & just cause you were wrong don't try & point the other way & take the attention away from the point. it's been done, if you want proof, go do some research

flipnsac said:
If you're on a tight budget (like most of us) you might be better off just getting an intake spacer for $40. Same HP claim for much less money:

http://www.mustangtuning.com/mu4gtinsp1.html
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BooWFo - it's never really a 'feel' factor. heck the biggest mods i've done to my car, i've actually 'felt' the least gain, but yet picked up 20+ rwhp.

& yeah if you were to go about it like that (with the plenum spacer & ported plenum), i'm sure it'd work out well. how well not a clue, butyou'd definately pick up some. a engine is basically a big air compressor, the faster you can get air in & out, the more efficiently it works

Hunter-white - i apologize for the hijack. i won't contribute to it from here on out
 
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flipnsac

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stangman said:
i'm not putting words in anyones mouth. you said it, didn't know what you were talking about, deal with it. i ain't mad & just cause you were wrong don't try & point the other way & take the attention away from the point. it's been done, if you want proof, go do some research


Nice cop-out....
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flipnsac said:
Please stop putting your words in other peoples' mouths. Your take is not what I said. Everyone has to make up their own mind in the end. (CAVEAT EMPTOR- MF)
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People make up their mind on proven facts IE: Dyno results and actually hold and using the product.

flipnsac said:
Now go away............. but before you do, prove to everyone that a spacer doesn't do what it's advertised to do. Otherwise, you are just spreading your assumptions.........and if your proof is backed up by facts, I will go along with it.
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Do you actually believe in 'advertized' hp??
 

DocG

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Its like a cat-fight in here. Being a newbie to Stang's....although a quick learner.....I do look to this place for advice. If someone has direct knowledge or research proven facts...then I like to hear the claims. If its just a thought or suggestion, label it as such. When I respond to a thread, I preface it with "I don't know shi!@#"...but here's my opinion!

But again...as I've read a million times on here....YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR! If its cheap, then you're getting cheap *****
 
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