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randyp83

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Just wondering how long they last? Is is worth the extra money get the cermic ones?
 

Coast2CoaStang

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Yeah, get ceramic.
 
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x2, ceramic

There is a reason why they are that much more expensive.
 

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My chrome BBK's are just fine. Maybe pretty rainbowed, but just fine.
 

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Yea, I got chrome because I love the look of the "burnt" pipes, but the damn things started to rust in less than a year, and I never even drive it in the rain. My chrome ones are BBK, I don't know if more expensive companies' chrome headers would fail so quickly. I don't think there is any performance advantage to ceramic, other than they stay prettier longer and maybe your starter won't die so quickly from heat soak.
 

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My chrome BBKs blued pretty quickly and then started to rust some. So I sold them and picked up a set of FRPP ceramic coated headers off ebay for almost what I paid for the BBKs. The deals are out there but you just have to look for them and be patient
 

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Get Ceramic

Here are my "chrome" BBK's


Get the FMS ceramic shorty's. They are a damn good header that swear was made by the hand of God Himself
 

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Get the ceramic if you have the money. or get the chrome and keep in mind they'll eventually rust just like the stockers on just about every car out there.
 

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Go ceramic, no doubt. in case you didn't figure that out yet
 

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I agree with the others as far as getting ceramic.

And there are some benefits to the ceramics other than appearance. They will reduce underhood temps a bit and aid in exhaust flow. Just make sure you get them coated inside and outside. The coating keeps the exhaust gases hot. This allows them to travel out of the headers quicker aiding in exhaust gas flow. As exhaust gases heat up, they expand and subsequently slow down through the exhaust. The ceramic coating insulates the headers keeping the heat INSIDE the tubes.

So, not only do they look nicer for much longer, there is a performance benefit.
 

skunk21

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JKidd said:
I agree with the others as far as getting ceramic.

And there are some benefits to the ceramics other than appearance. They will reduce underhood temps a bit and aid in exhaust flow. Just make sure you get them coated inside and outside. The coating keeps the exhaust gases hot. This allows them to travel out of the headers quicker aiding in exhaust gas flow. As exhaust gases heat up, they expand and subsequently slow down through the exhaust. The ceramic coating insulates the headers keeping the heat INSIDE the tubes.

So, not only do they look nicer for much longer, there is a performance benefit.
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good point, this slight power gain is from pulling the gases out of the cumbustion chamber faster (scavenging) and gives a more complete burn, the drag racing pro's who build big HP get the bigger bennies out of this but the smaller motors also get some gain. remember not all shorties are built the same or even long tubes stay away from no names(ebay no namers) that cost like $100 or less for coated headers junk....if collectors are built cheap where the tubes come together they will allow exhaust gases to get sucked back into motor on the other exhaust pulse and rob alot of power( the more expensive headers like JBA and Kooks go alittle further to prevent this and I learned about this deal from talking with them). I would stay with BBK, Ford racing like the others mentioned.
 

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What if you already have headers, can you ceramicote them?

I just bought brand new BBK chrome shorties, I don't feel like selling them so i'll use em until they rust then pull em and coat them?
 

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1990Coupe said:
What if you already have headers, can you ceramicote them?

I just bought brand new BBK chrome shorties, I don't feel like selling them so i'll use em until they rust then pull em and coat them?
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Yea, I'm feelin ya. I'm just going to hold off on replacing the rusted shorties until the car gets the 'ol W. Heh.
 

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ive had my shorties for 2 years and they havent rusted yet? its my dd too i can throw up some pics if u want
 

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SteedaGT9150 said:
ive had my shorties for 2 years and they havent rusted yet? its my dd too i can throw up some pics if u want
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Mine didn't really rust up until they were around 4 years old.
 

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deff get ceramic coated headers unless your hurting for money. the amount of heat the chrome bbk's gave off in my car was retarded lol
 

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deff get ceramic coated headers unless your hurting for money. the amount of heat the chrome bbk's gave off in my car was retarded lol
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Ah yes, that brings me to another negative of my BBK shorties


After I installed them...my underhood temps went WAAAAAY up. They heat-soaked everything!
 

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1990Coupe said:
What if you already have headers, can you ceramicote them?

I just bought brand new BBK chrome shorties, I don't feel like selling them so i'll use em until they rust then pull em and coat them?
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Jet hot, same company the ford racing, JBA, Kooks, etc use. They are are great people to deal with , i used them to coat my headers and y-pipe on my contour.

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