Cobra...BMW

DcDisturbed947 · Feb 18, 2004

Alright without thinking about money, would u guys take the BMW M3 or a Cobra? both 04 of course. I know I know there's like a $20,000 difference, but just wondering. I mean, damn the M3's so hot. I honestly don't know if there's anything under $100,000 that I would take over it. Then if we got over to the 120's I may go for the Mercedes SL500, but u know, I would still have to think about it. Am I the only who likes the M3 THAT much or are there others out there?

stangkid87 · Feb 18, 2004

Id take the cobra just cuz i think the mustamg is the best car ever, but the M3's are cool but not as cool as a cobra

DcDisturbed947 · Feb 18, 2004

The M3 would win in a race though right? Or not? I don't know, we're talking stock for stock here

Gault · Feb 19, 2004

If it was given to me and I had a choice, I'd take the BMW. Then I'd sell it, buy a cobra and pocket the difference....

5-SpeedStallion · Feb 19, 2004

DcDisturbed947 said:
The M3 would win in a race though right? Or not? I don't know, we're talking stock for stock here

No, the Cobra would own the M3.

My friend's stock Cobra has 100 more hp than a stock M3 (433 vs. 333), not to mention that the torque isn't that good on the M3- definately not in Cobra range.

95kobrah · Feb 19, 2004

The only BMW i would drive is an M5... i can't stand the M3's, i dunno why... they'd smoke both my cars combined (well, maybe not) ... but ive never been a bimmer fan, so to answer the question, '04 cobra all the way.

DcDisturbed947 · Feb 19, 2004

stock cobra 433 HP? I thought it was 390

Enzora · Feb 19, 2004

390 horsepower = underrated. Some of those 03-04 Cobras have dyno'd closer to 390 hp at the wheels, so 433 isn't totally unbelievable.

ChaosStarter · Feb 19, 2004

5-SpeedStallion said:
No, the Cobra would own the M3.

My friend's stock Cobra has 100 more hp than a stock M3 (433 vs. 333), not to mention that the torque isn't that good on the M3- definately not in Cobra range.

Yea, '03/'04 Cobra's are all rated at 390/390.

If you just want an all-around awesome sports car that has power, handles like it's on rails, and is a top notch car, get the newer M3. If you want an incredable beast of a powerhouse, get the Cobra. The build quality is where you get the $20k difference.

5-SpeedStallion · Feb 19, 2004

ChaosStarter said:
Yea, '03/'04 Cobra's are all rated at 390/390.

Umm, sorry, his Cobra dyno'ed at 371whp on Roush's dyno. I was there, in fact.

371 X 1.17= 434 crank hp(sorry, I was 1 hp off)

Oh, and it was dyno'ed in 80 degree heat and Florida humidty 15 mins. after an hour long drive, so it would dyno at 380+ in better weather EASILY. Oh, he does have a K&N air filter and a Cobra grill emblem... other than that, BONE STOCK. Also, he has trapped 113mph in the 1/4 and this is his first manual car.

I'd be careful to call BS on anything involving a 03-04 Cobra in the future. They are incredible (read:underrated) cars.

5-SpeedStallion · Feb 19, 2004

ChaosStarter said:
If you just want an all-around awesome sports car that has power, handles like it's on rails, and is a top notch car, get the newer M3. If you want an incredable beast of a powerhouse, get the Cobra.

Well, many car magazines compared the new Cobra to the E46 M3 (not in comparison tests, as in "the Cobra is a lot like the M3") so, it is in the same performance league. Also, many of the E46 M3 engines have failed (i.e. blown, exploded, etc.), however, that is not the case with the new Cobra's whose engines have been known to handle as much as 900whp w/o a problem. Don't get me wrong, the M3 is a great car and is NOT in the same class of car, but the performance all-around is similar and there is no stronger engine than the current Iron-block, Manley Rod, 03 Cobra engine.

97v6Silver · Feb 19, 2004

what about the saleen mustang?

94_302 · Feb 19, 2004

DcDisturbed947 said:
Alright without thinking about money, would u guys take the BMW M3 or a Cobra? both 04 of course. I know I know there's like a $20,000 difference, but just wondering. I mean, damn the M3's so hot. I honestly don't know if there's anything under $100,000 that I would take over it. Then if we got over to the 120's I may go for the Mercedes SL500, but u know, I would still have to think about it. Am I the only who likes the M3 THAT much or are there others out there?

I would take the cobra, I see more M3's than cobras and they dont appeal to me much anymore. A saleen s-281E though would take the cake. SL500 Yeah they may look cool but they ARE SLOW for what you pay. Seriously a Stock GT would be a good race for the SL500, for that money why not get a viper or a 911? Or if your in the 120k range look at an e-55 those are up there right?

DcDisturbed947 · Feb 19, 2004

well if I was on the 120k range I would get an M3 AND a Cobra. Leave the M3 the way it is and build the cobra into a bigger monster than it already is.

huskerpower02 · Feb 19, 2004

97v6Silver said:
what about the saleen mustang?

depends on what saleen your talking about...sc281 is nothing...now if we get into the 351 and the extreme versions, well then thats when things get exciting.

-Drew

97v6Silver · Feb 19, 2004

or the s7....

but wouldn't a viper take out both a m3 and cobra for under 100 grand there are plenty of cars that can take out an m3 for under 100k...

ice091298 · Feb 19, 2004

get the m3. raw power is fun, but the refinement and creature comforts as well as handling is just amazing. of course, maintinance will cost you more though.. so tahts something to consider

20sstangg00 · Feb 19, 2004

but wouldn't a viper take out both a m3 and cobra

Silver... I've been waiting along time for somebody to say that

DcDisturbed947 · Feb 20, 2004

but the question was cobra or M3. I know of course a viper would take on both of them, but thats a lot more of an exotic car. Why not just go and get a Ferrari F50, it'll take on all the cars mentioned. No wait, why not a McLarern, yeah its like a million dollars, but hey it'll win

5-SpeedStallion · Feb 20, 2004

DcDisturbed947 said:
but the question was cobra or M3. I know of course a viper would take on both of them, but thats a lot more of an exotic car. Why not just go and get a Ferrari F50, it'll take on all the cars mentioned. No wait, why not a McLarern, yeah its like a million dollars, but hey it'll win

Or you could spend less and have a car nearly equal to the F50... the Ford GT. C&D said that out of all the production cars including Ferrari, Lambo, etc., the only car that would definately beat the GT on the track would be the Enzo.

Back on topic... the Cobra is a better performance car than the M3 but you get BMW refinement and prestige for your $20k, so it just depends on what you want.

And finally, yes, the viper is sweet, but the Z06 or Cobra has better bang-for-the-buck. I lightly modded Cobra would easily run with a Viper, however, once again, the Viper has much more prestige, shock factor, and is a significantly better overall car. Plus, its rare and its just dang sweet. Once again, depends what you want.

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