crosswind intake?

kreacher5.0 · Feb 27, 2006

Im switching from a offenhouser low rise 360 to a crosswind am i gaining or losing power

BIG-MAC · Feb 27, 2006

What's a Crosswind?

68rustang · Feb 27, 2006

Hey BIG-MAC,

Anymore pics of the car in your avatar?

180 Out · Feb 27, 2006

Since the Offy is universally dissed, I'd say you're gaining power. However, the Professional Products intakes are getting their share of dissing too.

I put a Pro Products dual plane on my kids' '65, because for a polished intake it was about $100 cheaper than a polished Performer. Obviously I was going for bling as much as performance. I think the price gap has narrowed, and if I were doing it again I think I would go the few dollars more and get the real deal -- an Edelbrock Air Gap, or a Weiand Stealth.

I definitely would not get one of those Pro Products "real chrome" units. Something tells me those aren't going to hold up over the long haul.

I've always had this reservation about any of these Air Gap intakes for street use, and that is that they are bound to take awhile to warm up the carb in cold weather. If you get right on the freeway and can cruise to normal operating temperatures, it won't be a prob, but if you have to head into stop and go first thing in the morning, I think it will definitely be a problem.

kreacher5.0 · Feb 27, 2006

power plus crosswind its a rip off the edelbrock rpm air gap

kreacher5.0 · Feb 27, 2006

so whats the diff in real deal and the rip off?

BIG-MAC · Feb 27, 2006

68rustang said:
Hey BIG-MAC,

Anymore pics of the car in your avatar?

sure...check my garage

BIG-MAC · Feb 27, 2006

kreacher5.0 said:
power plus crosswind its a rip off the edelbrock rpm air gap

OK thanks...

steel1212 · Feb 27, 2006

I've got a air gap on my 302. I also have an electric choke as well. I don't let the choke go for very long before I idle it myself. I haven't noticed any differance as far as warm up time compared to the performer I had.

180 Out · Mar 1, 2006

kreacher5.0 said:
so whats the diff in real deal and the rip off?

Real deal (Edelbrock) and rip off (Professional Products):

1. Edelbrock: Made in USA, so foundry workers, machinists, and front office personnel put their earnings and tax money back into our economy.

PP: Made in China, so workers' wages stay in China. U.S. consumer money to China supports corrupt regime that, in turn, supports U.S. enemies (North Korea, Iran, etc.). Exploits workers and encourages increasingly stratified Chinese caste system. Contributes to $800,000,000,000 (and growing) annual U.S.-China trade deficit.

2. Edelbrock: Invested in the R & D that created the product; Edelbrock has moral claim to profit from its own ideas; dollars siphoned off by copycat products leaves Edelbrock with fewer dollars for future R & D.

PP: R & D consists of how best to copy others' products, i.e., to make it easier to copy more.

3. Edelbrock: better quality control; core-shifted castings rejected and not shipped; the "little things" are all seen to.

PP: Core-shifted castings shipped; consumer must check and gasket match, or reject castings and try to get money back from retailer. The "little things" are ignored

(Admittedly this last category is the regurgitation of the Edelbrock, and the whole "made in U.S.A." movement's, company line. I don't have first hand data. I didn't even check for gasket match with the PP intake I put on my kids' '65. I have no complaints about it, either.)

SoCalCruising · Mar 1, 2006

The casting and machining quality of the Stealth is far better than the E-brock - I had both for my 331 build and trashed the E-brock. I will say, however, that the E-brock came with more hardware (plugs, bracktes, etc.) than the Stealth and is, therefore, a more complete product.

D.Hearne · Mar 1, 2006

180 Out said:
Real deal (Edelbrock) and rip off (Professional Products):

1. Edelbrock: Made in USA, so foundry workers, machinists, and front office personnel put their earnings and tax money back into our economy.

PP: Made in China, so workers' wages stay in China. U.S. consumer money to China supports corrupt regime that, in turn, supports U.S. enemies (North Korea, Iran, etc.). Exploits workers and encourages increasingly stratified Chinese caste system. Contributes to $800,000,000,000 (and growing) annual U.S.-China trade deficit.

2. Edelbrock: Invested in the R & D that created the product; Edelbrock has moral claim to profit from its own ideas; dollars siphoned off by copycat products leaves Edelbrock with fewer dollars for future R & D.

PP: R & D consists of how best to copy others' products, i.e., to make it easier to copy more.

3. Edelbrock: better quality control; core-shifted castings rejected and not shipped; the "little things" are all seen to.

PP: Core-shifted castings shipped; consumer must check and gasket match, or reject castings and try to get money back from retailer. The "little things" are ignored

(Admittedly this last category is the regurgitation of the Edelbrock, and the whole "made in U.S.A." movement's, company line. I don't have first hand data. I didn't even check for gasket match with the PP intake I put on my kids' '65. I have no complaints about it, either.)

DITTO Unless the product is something not offered by American companies, I try to buy American. PP stuff is just a cheap rip-off of something Edelbrock spent time and money to develop.

5.0ina66 · Mar 1, 2006

Ditto Ditto!
Besides, who in their right mind would buy that POS when a new Stealth is within $1 of the same price? Pro-Products QC on those intakes SUCKS!

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