Did A Donut And Broke My Power Steering?

j0rd4n · Sep 21, 2013

i just installed a new steering rack a couple months ago (just an autozone one) and for the first time did a couple small donuts in my car... then i go to pull away and feel i have no power steering.

there is ,what must be, power steering fluid spewed all over the driver side steering rack and inside the driver side tire area

what should i look for first?

j0rd4n · Sep 21, 2013

update:

one of the power steering lines going from the pump to the rack is spewing fluid. im guessing this was already an existing hole and i just made it worse.

there are two lines that go from the pump to the rack, one with some kind of outlet on it for a plug. that is the one that is leaking fluid. is this a common line?

i meant to take pictures but its raining now

j0rd4n · Sep 21, 2013

im almost positive its this but im not sure

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/pa.../N-ihy8aZ8oz1z?itemIdentifier=197954_0_0_6774

liljoe07 · Sep 21, 2013

The one with the electrical connection would be the high pressure hose. Im guessing it used to be a 4 cylinder car since it has a pressure sensor on the pressure line.

j0rd4n · Sep 21, 2013

liljoe07 said:
The one with the electrical connection would be the high pressure hose. Im guessing it used to be a 4 cylinder car since it has a pressure sensor on the pressure line.

yeah its a 4 cyl swap i've just bought it a few months ago

j0rd4n · Sep 21, 2013

liljoe07 said:
The one with the electrical connection would be the high pressure hose. Im guessing it used to be a 4 cylinder car since it has a pressure sensor on the pressure line.

so i should just buy the pressure line i linked and swap it right?

j0rd4n · Sep 21, 2013

j0rd4n · Sep 21, 2013

the place i point in the second picture is where its leaking ( it was never connected). couldnt i do some kind of rubber hose repair because they wont have the part til tomorrow and i dont want to fry my pump

liljoe07 · Sep 21, 2013

No rubber hose repair on that line. Pressure is too high.

j0rd4n · Sep 21, 2013

liljoe07 said:
No rubber hose repair on that line. Pressure is too high.

Ok ill just soak in penetrating oil tonight and hope it comes off easy tomorrow

Noobz347 · Sep 21, 2013

j0rd4n said:
Ok ill just soak in penetrating oil tonight and hope it comes off easy tomorrow

I had to do one of those not that long ago... Had to hold my tongue just right to get the new in there without cross threading it. Install the new one on a day you're feeling exceptionally patient.

jrichker · Sep 22, 2013

Power steering pressure lines:
Each hose uses an O ring on each end to seal them. The hoses will swivel when they are installed and tightened into place. That is why there are O rings on the fittings. The O ring is the part that actually makes the pressure seal. If you slide the nut all the way back as far as it will go, you will see the O ring and the groove cut into the center section of the fitting.

Sometimes you will get some white Teflon rings with the pump or rack. The rings go on the threaded part of the fitting to reduce or prevent small leaks. They are not meant to seal the pressure part of the line or substitute for the rubber O ring. Heat the white Teflon seals in hot water and they will be easier to install. You can install the fittings without them and not have any leaks if the O rings seal good.

j0rd4n · Sep 22, 2013

jrichker said:
Power steering pressure lines:
Each hose uses an O ring on each end to seal them. The hoses will swivel when they are installed and tightened into place. That is why there are O rings on the fittings. The O ring is the part that actually makes the pressure seal. If you slide the nut all the way back as far as it will go, you will see the O ring and the groove cut into the center section of the fitting.

Sometimes you will get some white Teflon rings with the pump or rack. The rings go on the threaded part of the fitting to reduce or prevent small leaks. They are not meant to seal the pressure part of the line or substitute for the rubber O ring. Heat the white Teflon seals in hot water and they will be easier to install. You can install the fittings without them and not have any leaks if the O rings seal good.

Noobz347 said:
I had to do one of those not that long ago... Had to hold my tongue just right to get the new in there without cross threading it. Install the new one on a day you're feeling exceptionally patient.

This is the end of line . I had to to re-use the fitting that goes into the pump it didn't come with the line. This piece came out really easy, now I can't get it back in for the life of me. This picture shows where the threads seem widened. That Is the only reason I could think

Noobz347 · Sep 22, 2013

It's a pain the ass but it WILL go back in. I remember fidgeting with the angle of the hose fitting for quite a while before it thread back in correctly.

j0rd4n · Sep 22, 2013

Noobz347 said:
It's a pain the ass but it WILL go back in. I remember fidgeting with the angle of the hose fitting for quite a while before it thread back in correctly.

Can i fix the thread on it? i fought with it for atleast and hour straight and couldnt get it too thread in by any means. the line that goes to the rack gave me a little trouble but i got it on about my 5th try.

liljoe07 · Sep 22, 2013

You could try a thread file and get that rolled thread straightend out.

j0rd4n · Sep 23, 2013

jrichker said:
Power steering pressure lines:
Each hose uses an O ring on each end to seal them. The hoses will swivel when they are installed and tightened into place. That is why there are O rings on the fittings. The O ring is the part that actually makes the pressure seal. If you slide the nut all the way back as far as it will go, you will see the O ring and the groove cut into the center section of the fitting.

Sometimes you will get some white Teflon rings with the pump or rack. The rings go on the threaded part of the fitting to reduce or prevent small leaks. They are not meant to seal the pressure part of the line or substitute for the rubber O ring. Heat the white Teflon seals in hot water and they will be easier to install. You can install the fittings without them and not have any leaks if the O rings seal good.

Im getting a decent leak from the connection to the rack. i believe I have the o-ring in good it even stayed on the end of line when I took it off the last time. The only thing i think it could be is the Teflon piece it is completely shredded after being on and off.

jrichker · Sep 23, 2013

It the rack connections don't look like the ones in the drawing I posted, they probably don't use O rings. A flare fitting definitely doesn't use O rings.

David Pepiton · Sep 23, 2013

if funds allow why dont you just replace all the lines and be done with it? thats what i did just for peace of mind.

j0rd4n · Sep 24, 2013

David Pepiton said:
if funds allow why dont you just replace all the lines and be done with it? thats what i did just for peace of mind.

there is only one other line aware of, the other one from the pump to the rack. i guess i should have done that but it is currently my daily so i needed it running asap

jrichker said:
It the rack connections don't look like the ones in the drawing I posted, they probably don't use O rings. A flare fitting definitely doesn't use O rings.

i got it to seal eventually. Apparently i just didnt have the o-ring placement just right. It was like the drawings you posted

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