Disc brake help

castrol69coupe · Nov 8, 2004

1969 Mustang. Doing the drum/disc swap.

Went to throw my calipers and pads on last night, but I am held up by
one problem. I can't figure out where these rubber dealies go.

Found out this is not a Granada swap... these are from a 1969 Mustang.
Figured that out when my calipers didn't match the Granada ones the
parts guy gave me. Well, the calipers came with a bunch of clips and bolts
and rubber thingies that look like they go over the ends of the bolts.

Can take pictures if needed, but I figured there is someone here who has
done 100 braked jobs on an old Ford, and knows exactly where I need to
go and what I need to do.

Any help is appreciated.

~castrol

bnickel · Nov 8, 2004

those are the isolators for the caliper bolts, they go in the caliper bracket where the bolts go through it, if you don't use them your calipers will rattle like hell and eventually break the bolts, aske me how i know that

HistoricMustang · Nov 8, 2004

bnickle, sounds like one of them "been there - done that" stories!

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castrol69coupe · Nov 8, 2004

Okay, I have some photos... maybe you can tell me what I am doing wrong.

I figure that thing goes in there somewhere... but it doesn't go through the threads,
now does it? That is where most of my confusion is coming from...

Also, does that clip go on top of the pad like that? Just want to double check.

~castrol

bnickel · Nov 8, 2004

as for the clip that is where it goes and what it does, but you are a little off on the isolator, it doesn't go in the caliper but instead goes in the caliper mounting bracket, you'll have to take the caliper off to install it, but it does go about where you are trying put it just on the bracket instead of the caliper, if you'll look at the second photo you posted you'll see the end of the bolt sticking out of the bracket, that's where the isolator goes with the little titty ending up in the exact spot where the end of the bolt is. i have to tell you though, they are kind of a pain the ass to install especially without tearing the little titty off.

castrol69coupe · Nov 8, 2004

bnickel said:
as for the clip that is where it goes and what it does, but you are a little off on the isolator, it doesn't go in the caliper but instead goes in the caliper mounting bracket, you'll have to take the caliper off to install it, but it does go about where you are trying put it just on the bracket instead of the caliper, if you'll look at the second photo you posted you'll see the end of the bolt sticking out of the bracket, that's where the isolator goes with the little titty ending up in the exact spot where the end of the bolt is. i have to tell you though, they are kind of a pain the ass to install especially without tearing the little titty off.

So what you are telling me... is that I have to cram the big end of that isolator
into the hole in the spindle. Like in the first picture... only to the right a little?
and of course, inside that area?

The newer looking metal in that picture is the caliper. That hole has threads in
it. The rusted looking part to the right, is the spindle. The flimsy piece to the
left of the photo is the anchor plate. Are all of those in the right place?
The rubber piece seems too long to go into the spindle, and the anchor seems
too far away from the caliper...

I am searching for photos everywhere... heh.

~castrol

alexf20c · Nov 8, 2004

The anchor has to be "far away" from the caliper to let it do its job. The caliper itself slides back and forth - the only way to get both pads to contact the rotor on a 1-piston caliper.

But I agree with bnickel. But on AIM you told me the spindle was threaded, and not the caliper...

Anyway, I should just come over and help you...

alexf20c · Nov 8, 2004

I would remove the caliper, heat the boot in some hot/boiling water, and work it into the anchor plate (spindle). Careful what you use for lubricant though.

alexf20c · Nov 8, 2004

I must say, though, that your hands are incredibly clean for a brake job!

bnickel · Nov 8, 2004

castrol69coupe said:
So what you are telling me... is that I have to cram the big end of that isolator
into the hole in the spindle. Like in the first picture... only to the right a little?
and of course, inside that area?

The newer looking metal in that picture is the caliper. That hole has threads in
it. The rusted looking part to the right, is the spindle. The flimsy piece to the
left of the photo is the anchor plate. Are all of those in the right place?
The rubber piece seems too long to go into the spindle, and the anchor seems
too far away from the caliper...

I am searching for photos everywhere... heh.

~castrol

yep, that's exactly right. what you are calling the spindle is actually the caliper mounting bracket, that bracket is bolted to the spindle. otherwise we are talking about the exact same thing. i agree with boiling the isolator, that may soften it up enough to get it in there. i also agree about the lube as well, don't use any when you are installing the insulator. after you get the insulator in where goes and re-install the caliper put a little wheel bearing grease or better yet di-electric silicone grease on the bolts.

castrol69coupe · Nov 8, 2004

bnickel said:
yep, that's exactly right. what you are calling the spindle is actually the caliper mounting bracket, that bracket is bolted to the spindle. otherwise we are talking about the exact same thing. i agree with boiling the isolator, that may soften it up enough to get it in there. i also agree about the lube as well, don't use any when you are installing the insulator. after you get the insulator in where goes and re-install the caliper put a little wheel bearing grease or better yet di-electric silicone grease on the bolts.

Thanks Bnickel. Will try this tomorrow.

~castrol

bnickel · Nov 9, 2004

castrol, no problem. glad i could help

historic, yes, i have been there done that. but i know better now. it's actually amazing how hard those things were to find 10 years ago

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