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Do O2 sensors go bad?

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me27821

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So I go to Mineky (don't know how to spell) to get my exhaust checked. My car has a strong smell, like a chemical, not gas. The guys there said my cats are plugged, and my o2 sensors are bad. They troubleshot my system by tapping on it with a screwdriver. The guys are morons, and that's why I'm asking on here. They said my o2 sensors are bad, and because of that, my car is injecting too much gas, and it's not burning. Is that how it works? If so, what should be changed first, my o2 sensors, or cats?
 

Yellow_V6

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Remove the cats, No you probably dont want to do that chances are you would fail emitions at that point something you don't want to do but if you live in a county that has no emitions pull them off you might loose a little bit off back pressure but probably not much to notice. O2 sensors can go bad I don't think it cost to much to replace them.
 
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No I wouldn't just remove the cats. I'd get an aftermarket system with cats. Probly an x pipe with flowmasters. Or, is it better to go with a true dual system, and no x or h pipe?
 

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Yes, O2 sensors do go bad. And the o2 sensors being more than likely killed the cats.

An automotive oxygen sensor, also known as an O2 sensor, lambda probe, lambda sensor, lambda sond or EGO (exhaust gas oxygen) sensor, is a small sensor inserted into the exhaust system of a petrol engine to measure the concentration of oxygen remaining in the exhaust gas to allow an electronic control unit (ECU) to control the efficiency of the combustion process in the engine. In most modern automobiles, these sensors are attached to the engine's exhaust manifold to determine whether the mixture of air and gasoline going into the engine is rich (too much fuel) or lean (too little fuel).

This information is sent to the engine management ECU computer, which adjusts the mixture to give the engine the best possible fuel economy and lowest possible exhaust emissions. Failure of these sensors, either through normal aging or the use of leaded fuels, can lead to damage of an automobile's catalytic converter and expensive repairs.

The downside of oxygen sensors is that they defeat many fuel saving technologies. If the engine burns too lean from any modifications, the sensor detects that the exhaust is too lean. It then sends the signal to cause the injectors to enrich the mixture by supplying more fuel. This causes the air-fuel mixture to stay within the stoichiometric ratio of 14.7:1 on a typical domestic vehicle.

There are ways to overcome this efficiency defeating mechanism. Several companies manufacture a device that can be inserted inline with the sensor and tricks the voltage signals into thinking it is within normal parameters. Therefore, any modification for cleaner burning will not be defeated by the oxygen sensor.

This self-defeating mechanism is why some legitimate fuel saving technologies actually cause a loss in gas mileage

Gotta love wikipedia...
 
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yeah I love wikipedia. Thanks a lot ChingonStang. That's a response I love to hear. I really appreciate that. Lokks like I gotta save some money now.
 

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Removing the cats was kind of a joke. Sorry
 

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In response to how much do O2 sensors cost, it all depends.

Monro wants to charge me $155 for ONE, and $25 to install. I laughed in the guy's face. Advanced Auto Parts wants $66 and change for a 4-wire. PartsTrain.com is as low as $22. Go figure.

My question is, which O2 Sensor is the correct one for a 97 V6? 1-wire, 2-wire, or 4-wire?.

Here's the link:

http://www2.partstrain.com/store/in...1&y=1998&mk=Ford&md=Mustang&Ns=price2|0&Npp=5
 
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