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EGR VALVE

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  • Start date Start date Oct 27, 2010
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sd-stang

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i have recently installed JBL headers in my 95 mustang...
we struggled a lot because of the egr tube...
i just wanted to know if it was better to delete it or keep the egr valve
 

revhead347

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Much easier to keep it. If you remove it, the car will throw a CEL. It can also cause some mid throttle pinging.

Kurt
 

WhiteCobra95

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I just made a solid gasket to put in between the valve and the intake manifold. Then I put caps over the header port and the EGR valve inlet (you can find them on Ebay). That way you can leave the valve plugged in and not set a light. It is true that you can get some mid load knock without the EGR, but if you can chip your car then jsut disable the EGR entirely. It will hurt fuel economy a bit, but it will keep the intake and heads a lot cleaner. One of my fellow calibratoers stated it well: You shouldn't feed an engine it's own S$#t!
 
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I have my EGR deleted and havn't had any knock issues. This is the first I have heard of that being an issue, but that doens't mean some people haven't experienced it. Every car is different even the same year, same mods can have different results.

I run premium fuel in mine, slightly advanced timing and have not had any problems with knocking through out the RPM's.

Good luck!
Ben
 

final5-0

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You can make a tube from soft copper tubing found at your local
hardware store without too much trouble

I did it myself and it really wasn't all that bad

Like was said above

The correct way to not use it is to tell the pcm it is no longer in use

Yes ... you can take it off ...
Yes ... you can disable it mechanically ...
however
When you do such a thing ........

You run the risk of ping issues

The GT Stangs have very high spark and lean mixtures at light/mid
load conditions

therefore

such egr removal methods can very well cause the ping thing to
rear it's ugly head

Cobra Stangs are not quite as bad as the GT's due to different spark
and fuel settings but still ... same thing might happen to them as well

Grady
 

revhead347

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I have a chip and mine is disabled. It still had some mid throttle pinging on the last motor.

Kurt
 
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I have mine disabled with my tweecer and also get the ping every now and then. I'm running the 95 Cobra R tune but never compared it with GT or Cobra tunes. The only reason I disabled mine was the threads are stripped on the header and won't hold a seal.
 

final5-0

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bayellowstang said:
I have mine disabled with my tweecer and also get the ping every now and then. I'm running the 95 Cobra R tune but never compared it with GT or Cobra tunes. The only reason I disabled mine was the threads are stripped on the header and won't hold a seal.
Click to expand...

You know ... I tried several times to build a tune based on the ZA0 file
but I never could get it to behave as stable as using the j4j1

Yes ... I made sure to put the motor size back to 302 ci

I live in Texas so I deal with hot temps in the summer which did bring on
the ping thing

I captured the occurrence with datalogging

Then ... all I had to do was just hose around with appropiate load row
values in spark/fuel tables to kill the ping

Grady
 
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