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has anyone ever used a 12v motor and hooked it up to the pump and ran it like that? no load when turning just constant pressure. you'd have to fab up the brackets and yada yada but i think its a good idea. i checked on ebay for little electric motors and there are tons for way cheap, opinions>?

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Drew
 
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I believe it has been done, but just not on any domestic vehicle. I think some of the newer fuel efficient vehicles from Honda, Toyota, and so on have done this. If this is true, then you may be able to pick one up, fab up some brackets, and convert your hoses to AN- fittings and install it. Of course, you will have to see what kind of electrical load you'd be pulling and may have to do some modding there (140A alternator and such). There was some talk a while back of some of the newer cars going to 18-24v systems.

Nothing ever seems as easy as it looks at first, does it?
 
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Interesting idea. I think it would work but you'd have to see what kind of load it will pull to run it... you might also look into a hydraulic pump. I don't think it would take a lot to run a power steering pump. Hence the big pulley on it....Larry
 
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well see im not gonna use the pulley, i want to hook the motor up directly to the input shaft on the pump. most of those little motors ive bee seeing only draw like 10 amps.

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well see im not gonna use the pulley, i want to hook the motor up directly to the input shaft on the pump. most of those little motors ive bee seeing only draw like 10 amps.

Drew
 
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how many psi do the stock pumps put out? and how much volume does it hold?
 
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My friends mr2 has electric powersteering. Not really sure on how it works, but I do know its expensive when it breaks.
 
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haha its gonna be a homemade kit though and the only thing that'll break would be the electric motor, which wont be that expensive,
 

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No load when turning? The alternator has to generate the current to support the motor - when you load the motor, you load the alternator. So either way you take power to run. Contrary to popular myth, the more load that gets pulled from the alternator, the harder it is to turn it - the more power it takes from the engine. I suspect it will take quite a bit more motor/current/power than you think to turn the power steering pump. Do a bit more research - the pressures on the high side of the pump are quite high. I've seen estimates of anywhere from 3 to 10 HP for power steering pumps - convert that directly to current requirements and you get 170-500 Amps - in the same range as the starter. Get ready to hang a starter-sized diesel truck alternator on that puppy.

One thing you can count on - if there were big benefits in terms of costs, reliability or efficiency to run the hydraulic pump electrically, the oem's would've done it by now. And the electric power assist systems being studied/offered that I've read about don't use an electric motor to drive the pump; they use an electro-mechanical rack - like a big solenoid. The steering wheel simply turns a sensor that tells the rack how much to move - "steer by wire". You asked for opinions. I like that you're always thinking outside the box about things and aren't afraid to put the ideas out there. I also think this one's not worth pursuing much further.
 

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extra weight you don't even need PS.
 
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yeah i might just consider a manual rack, anither reason i wanted to ditch the ps was due to the fact of the turbo im plannin on putting in this summer, itll be driver's side mounted and i think no ps would help with the piping and such.
 
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