For all those who power shift...

Nobody · Apr 10, 2006

Or think that powershifting is clutchless, read what Liberty has to say about shifting with face engagement or even pro shifted trannies.

http://www.libertysgears.com/faceplate.htm

final5-0 · Apr 10, 2006

Not sure why you would think power shifting does not use the clutch but now you know the straight skinny about it.

Even when a perfect power shift is pulled off, a stock t5 is only gonna take so much of that stuff before probs start to occur.

Grady

Joes95GT · Apr 10, 2006

If you wanna go fast, you're gonna have to pay....

Joe

95GTV8 · Apr 10, 2006

i don't even want to think about powershifting on my T5.

black94gt50 · Apr 10, 2006

I have powershifted my t5 quite a bit and no problems yet lol yet is the key word. Alot of times I think its the driver, not the tranny. I dont really think t5 get a whole lot of credit at all. I mean of course they are gonna give out if you put a good h/c/i setup on your car, but you gotta think these cars pushed somewhere around 200 at the wheels stock, 300 at the wheels is a pretty good amount. I guess I'm just rambling on joe95 said it pretty well, if you wanna go fast your gonna have to pay

95Vert · Apr 10, 2006

I've never powershifted without the clutch. I was told that powershifting was using the clutch but not taking your foot off the gas. All the guys I know from Houston who have super fast cars do this and don't have any problems.

final5-0 · Apr 10, 2006

95Vert said:
I've never powershifted without the clutch.

That would not be power shifting

To make that happen like it should and not cause probs, one would have to get things all setup like that article talked about.

You typically see that kinda thing going on at the 1/4 mile and the trans has been purpose built to do it.

A stock t5 certainly does not fall in that category

I was told that powershifting was using the clutch but not taking your foot off the gas.

Now this is power shfting

All the guys I know from Houston who have super fast cars do this and don't have any problems.

Only thing I'll say about that is those south Texas boys have more confidence in the strength of their t5 than me.

Grady

Monsterbishi · Apr 10, 2006

power shifting/flat shifting on a normal trans usually requires a slight lift-off the throttle to get the synchro's to play ball, easiest way to achieve this without needing to lift off though is by using a intelligent rev limiter that can be set to yank the revs back a couple of hundred rpm when the shift point is reached.

The Green GT · Apr 10, 2006

So power shifting is leavign the gas down when you shift? I did that in my pld truck a few times in the mud. It helps but I messed up my clutch once.

Monsterbishi · Apr 10, 2006

The Green GT said:
So power shifting is leavign the gas down when you shift? I did that in my pld truck a few times in the mud. It helps but I messed up my clutch once.

oh yeah, you don't use the clutch either, that's the whole point of the exercise.

The Green GT · Apr 10, 2006

then how do you change gears? Just SLAM it into gear?

Monsterbishi · Apr 10, 2006

No, it's just a case of lifting the gas slightly to get the synchro rings to match enough to engage the next gear, and shifting it in, if you're 'slamming' it into gear, there's either something wrong with you, or your gearbox.

Go for a ride along with a truck driver for a day, then you'll understand. Or for that matter, most of us who race sportsbikes.

Joes95GT · Apr 10, 2006

Monsterbishi said:
No, it's just a case of lifting the gas slightly to get the synchro rings to match enough to engage the next gear, and shifting it in, if you're 'slamming' it into gear, there's either something wrong with you, or your gearbox.

Go for a ride along with a truck driver for a day, then you'll understand. Or for that matter, most of us who race sportsbikes.

Or a case of you not knowing what you're talking about.

This is the be-all, end-all of powershifting.

1) Floor it.
2) Push the clutch in.
3) Change gears.

All while not lifting your right foot.

Joe

Monsterbishi · Apr 10, 2006

Well, you've just described the worst way possible to shift gears and to destroy a clutch, what other great tips do you have?

gmkillr · Apr 10, 2006

Powershifting requires the use of the clutch on every shift!
You just never leave up on the gas at all.

Killercanary · Apr 10, 2006

Monsterbishi said:
Well, you've just described the worst way possible to shift gears and to destroy a clutch, what other great tips do you have?

Sorry man, but Joe is dead on right. That's the proper way to "powershift." Right foot gets planted and doesn't move from the gas pedal for the entire run, but the clutch is used for every shift.

It is a skill I do not possess though as I can't do it, I always miss the shift.

final5-0 · Apr 10, 2006

Monsterbishi said:
oh yeah, you don't use the clutch either, that's the whole point of the exercise.

This ain't gonna happen on a t5 but a time or maybe two

Might make that kinda chit happen on a rice car but every Ford trans I have ever had any experience with needed work by a trans guy to allow that kind of stuff to happen.

Then you would not want to drive it around on the street.

Just stuff I've seen over time

Grady

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