From Upper Intake Plenum to Filter

GraysonGT · Jun 29, 2004

What would you suggest?

1tirefire · Jun 29, 2004

c&l intake plenum, 70mm tb and a cai.

2002BLGT · Jun 29, 2004

I have a trickflow plenum , 75 mm edelbrock on the way for my car . far as to filter I have a blower in between , makes it run alot better LOL .

GraysonGT · Jun 29, 2004

2002BLGT said:
I have a trickflow plenum , 75 mm edelbrock on the way for my car . far as to filter I have a blower in between , makes it run alot better LOL .

I think I'm gonna stay NA for now. I'm sure it's awesome though. I just want to get the most NA HP I can get with bolt-ons. I'll check out the trickflow.

2002BLGT · Jun 29, 2004

GraysonGT said:
I think I'm gonna stay NA for now. I'm sure it's awesome though. I just want to get the most NA HP I can get with bolt-ons. I'll check out the trickflow.

summits got it for 139 , C&Ls are like 189 everywhere , too high if you ask me , modulardepot showed more HP gain than C&L with the trickflow while accufab is still top dog , just too high price for me

stimmler · Jun 29, 2004

Accufab plenum+70mm tb, more pricey but looks and performs the best. Still deciding on filter to TB. Heard too many horror stories about moving the mass air and screwing up their A/F ratios. Don't like the metal CAI's because they heat up. Densecharger sounds OK, but seems a little expensive for PVC and questionable added performance. So right now I'm running the good old stocker to a drop in K&N with the silencer pulled.

twogts4us · Jun 29, 2004

I still haven't made it back to the dyno to get the C&L MAF setup A/F situation tuned, so in the meantime I've replaced it with the OEM MAF (with no noticable loss of power, mind you), and I'm still happy with the current setup - Accufab plenum, Accufab 70mm TB, C&L Trueflow pipe.

DrK MrK iV · Jun 29, 2004

I got the C&L sitting in my room. Performs pretty good if you ask me.

Dark Knight GT · Jun 29, 2004

DrK MrK iV said:
I got the C&L sitting in my room. Performs pretty good if you ask me.

Would you like for me to port and polish it and then you can compare it to the stock plenum that you ported and polished.

01mgvert · Jun 30, 2004

twogts4us said:
I still haven't made it back to the dyno to get the C&L MAF setup A/F situation tuned, so in the meantime I've replaced it with the OEM MAF (with no noticable loss of power, mind you), and I'm still happy with the current setup - Accufab plenum, Accufab 70mm TB, C&L Trueflow pipe.

Nice picture. I have the same set up, except my Accufab tb and plenum is 75 mm. I know that the 70 mm did better on an otherwise stock stang, but I was not planning on staying otherwise stock. I was really pleased with the C & L TrueFlow Pipe. It made a noticeable difference in acceleration. You only need to look at the stock intake pipe to see why. I haven't changed out the MAF yet because I hear that it is good for 300 rwhp.

Dark Knight GT · Jun 30, 2004

DrK MrK iV said:
I got the C&L sitting in my room. Performs pretty good if you ask me.

I just now thought of something. Seriously, why does'nt someone port and polish the inside of these aftermarket plenums and see if there's any more gains to be had ? Just a thought.

DrK MrK iV · Jun 30, 2004

Dark Knight GT said:
I just now thought of something. Seriously, why does'nt someone port and polish the inside of these aftermarket plenums and see if there's any more gains to be had ? Just a thought.

I thought about it, But I really don't feel like spending 20 more dollars on bits. I might do it and see though.

twogts4us · Jun 30, 2004

01mgvert said:
Nice picture. I was really pleased with the C & L TrueFlow Pipe. It made a noticeable difference in acceleration. You only need to look at the stock intake pipe to see why.

Thanks! Yep, the OEM rubber hose (with it's accordian design and large dent on the underside near the TB) is a piece of crap. The C&L TrueFlow Pipe is HUGE and all aluminum (which is a poor conductor of heat )

btolenti · Jul 1, 2004

wait a minute.....I've always heard aluminum is a good heat conductor.... Many heat sinks are made of aluminum, therefore it is good at heat transfer....

Skud · Jul 1, 2004

Yes, aluminum is a fairly good conductor of heat and many computer (electronic) heatsinks use it to cool chips.
(Higher number == better conductor of heat)

Aluminum 2.165 W/cm-K
Copper 3.937 W/cm-K

And, just for example, Air is .0003 W/cm-K and Glass is .008 W/cm-K and a Phenolic Spacer (ie. Throttle body or carb spacer) is .002 W/cm-K

Riley

DrK MrK iV · Jul 1, 2004

Yea. Plastic is actually a good choice for a TB-MAS pipe. Too bad densecharger just doesn't sell that part.

propellerhead · Jul 1, 2004

August 04's MM&FF has Part II of a review on different TBs & plenums.

GraysonGT · Jul 1, 2004

Thanks for the recommendations. My next upgrade will be a Pro5.0 Shifter. It looks like I'll save my dough (could take a while) for the Accufab Plenum with 75mm TB and the C&L Trueflow inlet pipe with stock MAF. I have no idea what my current RWHP/RWTQ is , but with my current setup and proposed mods, what kind of RWHP/RWTQ do you think I'll make.

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