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Fuel Pump Is NOT Priming

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PjctWhiteNotch

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I was cleaning up some of the wires under the hood today and touched the driver from the positive side of (that little coil the positive cable runs to off the battery) to the body little spark happend and then car wont start. I checked all fuses and none are blown is there a seperate fuse for the fuel pump or did I just burn that pump up?
i turn the key and i know the pump soppose to purge and there is no more purge

please help!!!
 
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in the hatch erea there is a small hole where there is a fuel pump reset try hitting that. its next to the courtesy light, i
 
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you said a hatch.this is a notch where would it be on here?behind the side panels or under the carpet?
 

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ive never owned a notch or even seen inside the trunk of one, im sorry for that but i assume it would have to be behind the paneling by the lights, ill see what i can find out.
 

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No info about your car's model year. Therefore no clue as to which wiring diagram you need. The wiring changed several times between 79 & 95

I have several test paths for fixing fuel pump problems, but all of them require the model year of the car.

That's why it is a good idea to use the sig under the user control panel (User CP) option. It allows you to post your car year & mods, which help greatly when troubleshooting things. No, it is not there for us to snoop and see any "Secrets" you have hidden away under the hood. Be a good stangnetter and update you sig for future reference & don't keep us guessing.
 
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on a notch the fp reset switch is on the taillight panel inside the trunk, near the license plate. but i dont think that would have anything to do with your problem. maybe you burned up the fuse link to the computer cuz thatb is the one that powers the fuel pump relay.
 
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sorry its an 1989 Lx coupe 5.0 are there any links or fuses that coulda burned up along the wires as well? i need tyo know if there are any fuses running along those 3 or 4 wires commin off the positive side of that silinoid that the battery wire hooks up to. or if theres any fusable links that fried and where there located.
 

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I'm not sure if this helps but maybe you burned out your solenoid?
 

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check all fuses but i think the inirtia switch may have tripped i did some wiring in my 88 and somehow tripped the initia swith (just a little button in the trunk area)
 

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Fuel Pump Troubleshooting for 86-90 Mustangs

Clue – listen for the fuel pump to prime when you first turn the ignition switch on.
It should run for 5-20 seconds and shut off. To trick the fuel pump into running,
find the ECC test connector and jump the connector in the lower RH corner to
ground.

If the fuse links are OK, you will have power to the pump. Check fuel pressure –
remove the cap from the Schrader valve behind the alternator and depress the
core. Fuel should squirt out, catch it in a rag. A tire pressure gauge can also be
used if you have one - look for 37-40 PSI. Beware of fire hazard when you do this.

No fuel pressure, possible failed items in order of their probability:
A.) Tripped inertia switch – press reset button on the inertia switch. The hatch
cars hide it under the plastic trim covering the driver's side taillight. Use the
voltmeter or test light to make sure you have power to both sides of the switch

B.) Fuel pump power relay – located under the driver’s seat in most stangs built
before 92. On 92 and later model cars it is located below the Mass Air Flow meter.
C.) Clogged fuel filter
D.) Failed fuel pump
E.) Blown fuse link in wiring harness.
F.) Fuel pressure regulator failed. Remove vacuum line from regulator and inspect
for fuel escaping while pump is running.

The electrical circuit for the fuel pump has two paths, a control path and a power
path.

The control path consists of the inertia switch, the computer, and the fuel pump
relay coil. It turns the fuel pump relay on or off under computer control. The
switched power (red wire) from the ECC relay goes to the inertia switch
(red/black wire) then from the inertia switch to the relay coil and then from the
relay coil to the computer (tan/ Lt green wire). The computer provides the ground
path to complete the circuit. This ground causes the relay coil to energize and
close the contacts for the power path. Keep in mind that you can have voltage
to all the right places, but the computer must provide a ground. If there is no
ground, the relay will not close the power contacts.

The power path picks up from a fuse link near the starter relay. Fuse links are like
fuses, except they are pieces of wire and are made right into the wiring harness.
The feed wire from the fuse link (orange/ light blue wire) goes to the fuel pump
relay contacts. When the contacts close because the relay energizes, the power
flows through the contacts to the fuel pump (light pink/black wire). The fuel pump
has a black wire that supplies the ground to complete the circuit.

Remember that the computer does not source any power to actuators, relays
or injectors, but provides the ground necessary to complete the circuit. That
means one side of the circuit will always be hot, and the other side will go to
ground or below 1 volt as the computer switches on that circuit.


See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer) &
Stang&2Birds (website host)

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/IgnitionSwitchWiring.gif

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/fuel-alt-links-ign-ac.gif

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/88-91eecPinout.gif

Diagram courtesy of Tmoss & Stang&2birds



Now that you have the theory of how it works, it’s time to go digging.

Look for 12 volts at the Orange/Lt. Blue wire (power source for fuel pump relay).
No voltage or low voltage, bad fuse link, bad wiring, bad ignition switch or ignition
switch wiring or connections. There is a mystery connector somewhere under the
driver’s side kick panel, between the fuel pump relay and the fuse link.

Turn on the key and jumper the fuel pump test connector to ground as previously
described. Look for 12 volts at the Light Pink/Black wire (relay controlled power
for the fuel pump). No voltage there means that the relay has failed, or there is a
broken wire in the relay control circuit.

Check the Red/black wire, it should have 12 volts. No 12 volts there, either the
inertia switch is open or has no power to it. Check both sides of the inertia
switch: there should be power on the Red wire and Red/Black wire. Power on the
Red wire and not on the Red/Black wire means the inertia switch is open.

The Tan/Lt Green wire provides a ground path for the relay power. With the test
connector jumpered to ground, there should be less than .75 volts. Use a test
lamp with one side connected to battery power and the other side to the
Tan/Lt Green wire. The test light should glow brightly. No glow and you have a
broken wire or bad connection between the test connector and the relay. To test
the wiring from the computer, remove the passenger side kick panel and
disconnect the computer connector. It has a 10 MM bolt that holds it in place.
With the test lamp connected to power, jumper pin 22 to ground and the test
lamp should glow. No glow and the wiring between the computer and the fuel
pump relay is bad.

If all of the checks have worked OK to this point, then the computer is bad. The
computers are very reliable and not prone to failure unless there has been
significant electrical trauma to the car. Things like lightning strikes and putting
the battery in backwards or connecting jumper cables backwards are about the
only thing that kills the computer.
 

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Maybe you blew a relay?

replace the one in the kick panel by the computer and the one under the drivers seat.
 

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Yeah, when I turn the ignition on in my car. The fuel pump does not want to turn on =[ hopefully its just the inertia switch or something I dont want to have to replace the fuel pump even though eventually I will. I currently have a bunch of mods waiting to be installed but I am not going to do it until I can get the damn car running again.
 

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PhLoBuS said:
Yeah, when I turn the ignition on in my car. The fuel pump does not want to turn on =[ hopefully its just the inertia switch or something I dont want to have to replace the fuel pump even though eventually I will. I currently have a bunch of mods waiting to be installed but I am not going to do it until I can get the damn car running again.
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Go back and work you way through the test path I posted here. You will find the problem.
 
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