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Hey guys still having trouble starting my car when its hot. I am going to go through the "cranks but no start checklist" Saturday. But i did find a wire going from my fuel pump directly to the ignition switch. so when the car is running so is the fuel pump. Do i need to fix this and make it go through the relay under the drivers seat? So in other words when the key is in the on position the fuel pump runs, and never stops!!! Could this be part of my problem? Could it be flooding out when it really hot?



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It should not be flooding unless an injector leaks. I would try to restore the wiring back to stock when you can (maybe after you fix the car - so you don't have 20 variables).

Does it ever quit running when hot, or is it just tough to restart? If the former, run the list when it craps out and won't restart. If the latter, it might be something like a bad ECT. Pull codes if they haven't been (note that an ECT out of calibration often will not toss a code since it's still within total spec).
 
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The car will run for long time if i don't shut it off. The longest ive ran it for was 45 min and it ran perfectly fine. Just when i turn it off. I did change out the intake air temp sensor and the coolant temp sensor.( I work at Advance so i get a discount, it was worth the try) How do you pull codes when the car wont start? I thought that you have to start the car to pull codes?


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As long as you have a working battery and computer, you can dump the codes with the ignition switch in the Run position without the engine actually running.

Dumping the computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

Revised 19-May-2009 to update drawing for dumping the codes on 86-88 Mustangs with no check engine light.

Dump the codes and see what the computer says is wrong…Codes may be present in the computer even if the Check Engine light isn’t on.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Here's the link to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

See http://www.troublecodes.net/Ford/





If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems.

Codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see Digital Ford Code Reader (3145) – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
 
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