Getting screwed need some help

MY Cobra

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OK here is the deal. I took my car to American battery (A local shop here) Am i getting screwed for a 200 amp alternator? for 325 bucks with new cerpinetine belt new "wires for the laternator" ? Take a look at the police report. I wrote it up and gave it to the police officer. Is there anythign i can do about these people? Should i go and pick up my car tomorrow?



September 30th 2004,
Today I got in my car to go out to the store. My car would not start. I released the hood and assessed the problem. I had come to the conclusion that the alternator was dead. I had come to this conclusion due to the fact that I had the battery replaced on the 17th of September. I then got jumper cables and started my car. I took my car to American Battery. I took it to them from hearing good things about there work. I told them I had a lot of stereo work done to my car and that might be the reason for the alternator going out. They said alright they could fix it. They fixed it so i thought. I drove it home parked it in the garage. did not drive it till the next date.



October 7th 2004,

Today I got in my car to go out to lunch. The car does not start again. I then take the jumper cables and jump my car off again. I take the car back to American Battery. I tell them what happened they said they would take a look at it and to call back later that afternoon. I called back later that after noon and American Battery tells me that my stereo had blown my alternator after they had fixed it. I asked them how it blew the alternator and told them I had fuses that would stop any kind of surge like that. I looked at the fuses and none of them had been blown. I told them that I wanted it fixed they said alright we will see what we can do.

October 8th2004,

Today I think they would be working on my car. Late that after noon American Battery calls me and tells me that they need to order a new alternator and tell me how much they are going to cost me. I get mad and ask them why I should have to pay for something that is there fault. American Battery then tells me that I can pick up my car in the morning before they go to play golf. I tell them alright.

October 9th 2004,

I wake up early and wait on a call to meet up with them to get my car since they did not want it in there shop incase somebody were to break in and mess up the car. Nobody calls to meet up with them.

October 11th 2004,

I go in to American Battery ask what is up with my car. They say that we need to order a new alternator I tell them no it is not my fault. American Battery still tells me that the stereo blew the alternator. After telling them about how the fuses were not blown it could not be my stereo. American Battery tells me the reason my alternator is blown is that there is wiring underneath the bottom of the alternator that was blown. I told them to fix it and I did not think it was fair that I have to pay. He said it would be 250 dollars for everything to be fixed.

October 12 2004,

Today I go in to American Battery and ask them what is up with my car. I look at the alternator and it is off my car. I ask what he is going to do and Steve (the owner I think) tells me to call back at 3 pm. I do this and he tells me to call back in 30 min I do this and the worker tells me to get my car out of the shop it is in his way. I ask him “How is it in your way you have had it for 5 days” He then tells me that there are 6 other cars that need to be fixed and he can not get them in the shop. The worker tells me that the owner has went to the bank and he will be back in about 30 min. So the worker calls me back in about 30 min and tells me it will cost me 425 bucks to get a new alternator put on. This price including new wiring, new belt and the alternator. I tell him this is crazy. Then he tells me he will order it and give it to me for 325 and have it on tomorrow so i will shut up.
 
may be wrong size alternator

I had a similar experience with my 96 Taurus LX and Midas. I had checked out my alternator and found it defective. I was sucked in by the huge banners outside of their shop that said "Never Pay For A Repair Twice". Since I intended to keep the car a long time, I forked over $650 for a new alternator and belt. The car was my backup wheels, so all was fine. It sat in the garage and, in 2 years, had 3000 miles put on it. I had to charge the battery a few times, but I wrote this off to the fact that the car was not being used often. Comes the day I need it, I discover that the battery won't hold a charge. Buy new battery. Still won't hold a charge. Contact Midas - no joy. Contact dealer - sorry, that had only a 90 day warranty.

Moral of sad story - stay far away from Midas.

Lots more happened, but in the end, I had to remove the alternator myself to discover that they had replaced my 130amp alternator with a lower amp (80 amp) unit. You could take the 80 amp unit out to a shop to be tested, and it would pass with flying colors - it just couldn't handle the load on my fully optioned dohc V6 taurus. It would have worked fine in a standard taurus, but not in mine!

I'd suggest that you take your old part to a third party and have a thorough load test run (Pep Boys will do it for nothing). Make sure the tester knows that it should be putting out 200 amps max output (standard alternators do not do this and they WILL NOT keep your heavily loaded stang and stereo perking).

So far as all this back and forth stuff they're putting you through, it is grounds for divorce, in my book. Also, most late model mustangs have very simple wiring connections for their alternators, approximately 1 wire. How this can be a mystery to these guys is beyond me - either your wiring is screwed up or its not. Has anyone checked the Mega fuse (I think your Cobra has one) for instance? If its defective, many very weird things can happen...

Best of luck with your wheels.
 
thanks a lot. I do not know if i should just fork over the money they want and be on my way or what i should do. Makes me mad that i paid the money to have the work done right the first time and told them that i have a pretty large ammount of power going to my sound system they said they coudl fix it but they did not.
 
how much power? good lord I mean with my crappy stock 100amp alternator I have been running a 1farad cap with a 600ti amp and pair of 10's with no problems. other then low power at idle. lol even with my pully kit.

if it comes to that, for the next two weeks if your car is fixed - im sorry but you'll have to try and get through this- disable your amps and subs and see if your alternator goes out again.

if it does its either cause a: your battery was sucked down too far and caused premature alternator death (if it wasnt charged back up prier to repair) b: maybe your amp or a component shorted and is causing a huge strain on your charging system.

I only say this cause something has to cause your concern and if you know you have a good alternator and battery but they both keep dying then its something else. very easy to disable stereo for diagnosis. sucks driving around but eh.
 
Yeaaaa come to find out that when my car was in the shop having the sub box enfoced so it woudl not move at all. The cap was not hooked back up :( So i guess that it was too much strain on the stock alternator with a 1600 watt amp and some other things. how does a cap help ? I mean it still pulls the same ammount of power as the amp. But does it pull it all at once store it then pull it again when it needs it? So the alternator does not get stressed cause it is not always being pulled on that much. how does the amp kill the alternator and not the battery?