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Going to start on fuel pump install tomorrow...any last tips...

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5spd GT

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Here is how I was thinking about "attacking" the install...I was thinking jacking up the rear...sitting the back tires on ramps...lower the car back down...put a piece of wood across the jack and put it up against the tank...and unbolt and lower it...disconnect the fuel lines...drop it out of the way so I can work on it...and use a 6in. wrench extention with a towel or something over it to prevent a spark ...and hit the lock ring with a hammer to break it loose and disconnect the wires and fuel pump and then just do the install in reverse order...sound like a start?

Any final tips...I dont' want to screw it up because I will need to drive the car the next day...

Here is the pump I'm getting in...

http://secure.50resto.com/product1.cfm?SID=1&Product_ID=245&Category_ID=1167
 

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Drain as much fuel as you can before dropping the tank. Each gallon of gas is around 8 pounds.

Clean off the tank before removing the pump to ensure no dirt or debris gets in the tank.

If the new pump came with a installation kit you may need to splice in the new harness, no big deal. I like to use shrink tubing around the connection.

Use a piece of brass it will not spark.
 

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how full is the tank? you don't need a piece of wood to jack it up and down. i have done my 95 2 times already and i did not use anything but a jack. both time without ramps either.i will be doing it again in a few weeks as i am ordering a new and improved pump, mine is going out again
 

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Good then I'll just use the jack...I have about a quarter tank of gas right now...I got to put a few bucks in today so I can get to work tomorrow and to college the next day...so I'll try to put in a certain amount to hopefully keep the gas at a minimum...

I dont' have brass...

It is a 190lph fuel pump...

How do you use the fuel line (also a/c tool)...disconnect tools?...
 

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I just bought mine from them too. Got it last week. Mine is a 255 lph though. Its a Walbro fp even thought it doesnt say it. Good luck on the install i'll be doing the same thing in a few weeks.
 
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I used jack stands under the rear end, but ramps would do the same thing. I would use a piece of wood to distribute the weight. Spray the bolts that hold the straps up w/ WD 40 tonight or something before you do it because they'll prob. be difficult to get out.

Be careful about sparks...I found a brass punch...look at that lock ring carefully, I did it the hard way...there's a little thing you can turn a lot easier than hitting the outter edge like I did. That a/c disconnect tool always gives me problems...one of my hoses came right off and the other one took about 45 min of messing around with it. Watch closely how you pull the pump out cause it has to go back in the same way...there's a little dip thing in the tank that it sits in and it has to go back in there...the first time I did it, I had a hard time getting it back in right. Good luck.
 
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I bought a BBK pump (Walbro). The metal nipple coming off the pump was longer than the stock pump. You have to attach this to the fuel line on the hanger with a short piece of rubber hose. (comes with the pump, use new hose. Only prob is it wouldnt bolt into the hanger because of the length of the metal (fuel outlet) nipple. I had to cut it off a bit with a hack saw to make it work. Dont leave shavings in your pump if you have to modify it in this way. Also, you will want to have a filler neck gromment on hand in case yours rips apart when you pull the filler neck out of the tank. I got mine at the local mercury dealer for like $22. I know that is a ripoff, but I was glad I had purchased it before taking the tank out.
 

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Yes. Pay attention when you pull the pump out. You will have to turn it around to take it out. Just remember the filter sock faces the front. Also it might be a good idea to get a new filler neck grommet. They are known for dry rotting and it is an easy fix now while the tank is down. Ford part number F4zz-9072-DA.
 

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You don't need any special disconnect tool for the rear fuel lines at the tank, the spring clip retainers are only used on the lines at the fuel rail up front at engine. Your new fuel pump should come with 2 clips, one horseshoe style on the pressure side line (at the fuel filter) and one round style (on the return line). The vapor line just pulls off. If your pump doesn't come with these two clips then you local N*PA sells them separately. Always REPLACE these clips! Cheap enough insurance to prevent a FIRE!
 

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if you do need the disconnect tools, just stick the correct size in the fitting and push the fitting towards the tool, then pull off. it takes a few tries sometimes.
 

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Thanks guys...any more tips welcome...
 

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Like it's been said...what ever you do, DO NOT USE SPARKABLE METALS!! If you don't have a brass punch, USE wood, just keep in mind, you're sitting on a pretty big bomb. You don't need any fuel disconnect tools for a fuel pump, filter sock faces the front of the car, and it's a bitch to go back in lol, but it'll go. Good luck, it's an easy job...oh, and don't forget a new fuel filter too, just incase that may have slipped your mind
 

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Scorpion91GT said:
Like it's been said...what ever you do, DO NOT USE SPARKABLE METALS!! If you don't have a brass punch, USE wood, just keep in mind, you're sitting on a pretty big bomb. You don't need any fuel disconnect tools for a fuel pump, filter sock faces the front of the car, and it's a bitch to go back in lol, but it'll go. Good luck, it's an easy job...oh, and don't forget a new fuel filter too, just incase that may have slipped your mind
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Some people say I need the disconnect tools and some don't...lol...how many people have actually done a fuel pump install...I guess just disconnecting makes it easier...

I guess I need to relieve the fuel pressure...yeah I was thinking either metal with a towel wrapped around it or rubber...or use wood (that is probably what I will do)...I got a new motorcraft fuel filter and filler neck grommet...

Where is the filler neck bolt (8mm) that I need to undo to drop the tank? Underneath the gas tank door (passenger side)... or underneath the car by the filler neck?
 
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5spd GT said:
Some people say I need the disconnect tools and some don't...lol...how many people have actually done a fuel pump install...I guess just disconnecting makes it easier...
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I've done it...twice. I used the disconnect tools, but maybe I didn't have to I know the return fuel line is held on by a "duck bill" clip and you can either get the special tool or pry the two sides apart w/ a pick on each side or something...I think that's how I did it. That was the one that was the PITA for me.

Might be a good idea to relieve pressure And the 8mm bolt is under the car, I beleive.
 

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how do u relieve the pressure?
 

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You could push the shrader vale in with arag over it to relive the pressure, however relieving the pressure isn't needed if the car has sat for a few hours.
 
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Jo_885o said:
how do u relieve the pressure?
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there's a pressure release valve on the fuel line by the pass valve cover. Cover the valve w/ a rag and use a screwdriver or something to push the stem...some gas will come out and the rag will soak it up.
 
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