Headers

forget about the shortys get the long tubes there what you want! I have hooker l/ts and man there awsome.

GoBabyVroommm said:

Just letting you know you get 2-5hp to the wheels off shortys. With long tubes your looking at 9-23hp meaning to the wheels. Depends on the car how much hp you'll get. If your going to spend you money spend it on something good.

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JBAs are good for 9 rwhp.

Another vote for JBA's here. They supposedly make close to the same rwhp that you will get with lt's on a supercharged motor. I don't think they gain that much on a n/a though.

NasaGT said:

JBAs are good for 9 rwhp.

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If those are shorty that is really good. The BBK ones give you 2. I forgot where i read it but i was like damn that sucks.

what's the difference between stubby shorty headers and equal length shorty headers other than the obvious tube lengths?

rolenna00gt said:

Ok I thought the you only get gains out of long tubes from S/C or Turbo. SO here is the new questions witch headers should I get and will it bolt up to my Prochamber with out any problems???

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To answer your original question JBA has the best shorties our atm. These BBK's look promising, but who knows when they will get out. You will notice gain with LT's on N/A and Forced Induction, obviously you will get more with forced induction. As for the post about JBA giving 9 rwhp; i'd have to see the dyno sheet on that one and i'm sure the car was tuned as well. LT's will yield some pretty decent hp untuned and will give you some power on the upper band. Definitely go with Hookers if you consider Long Tubes now. I just replaced a clutch with MAC long tubes and it is not fun to say the least.

GoBabyVroommm said:

If those are shorty that is really good. The BBK ones give you 2. I forgot where i read it but i was like damn that sucks.

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I don't think you did read it, the BBKs are not available yet to my knowledge.
On http://brothersperformance.com search for 1615 (normal headers) and 16150 (ceramic) and they don't even come up. I thought BBK and brother's were kinda the same thing.

I don't like the Mac LTs. The SLP long tubes look so much better. I also heard problems with oil with the Mac LTs. There was a whole thread about it.

JBA's

Here ya go - before and after JBA 1 5/8 Shorties. Looks like 13.65rwhp peak.
Not too shabby for shorties. Of course you may not see as much with just JBA's because of my additional mods (ie 87mm MAF, Densecharger). Yeah, had a dyno tune before and after by Randy Haywood. He's the best I have found, and the only one I'll let touch my car - besides me. I hope this jpg attaches...

so what that dyno graph shows is that tuned right and with a couple of other mods, you can get a good gain with a pair of high quality headers

therefore, JBA Headers = teh win