Help me get my car running again?

OrangeMustangGt · Nov 19, 2005

Whell Hax my computr and call you're self L337!!!! Your right!

I went out, and Disconnected all the wires from the ALT.

I then put a battery charger on my battery, and when i fired up the car, it ran great, no SUPER. Anyhow, i think yougot it found, thanks alot man.

here's an e-cookie for ya nacho

95Vert · Nov 19, 2005

I can taste the cookie. I told you.

95Vert · Nov 19, 2005

As per the questions you asked, I have no idea why an alternator would cause all these problems but I guess it does.

CManT1914 · Nov 19, 2005

GreenMustangGt said:
Whell Hax my computr and call you're self L337!!!! Your right!

I went out, and Disconnected all the wires from the ALT.

I then put a battery charger on my battery, and when i fired up the car, it ran great, no SUPER. Anyhow, i think yougot it found, thanks alot man.

Great to hear you figured out the problem Kyle! Now it's time for a bigger/better alternator.

MysteryMachine · Nov 19, 2005

ok me and klye have been talking about his problem and he thinks i'm crazy. If theres water in your dizzy and you start your engine it can throw your timing. I know this because my toyota truck before it was mine it was my dad's and he washed the engine without covering the dizzy and is totally screwed the timing. He had to get the timing chain replaced to fix it. But our turbo wonder boy here (LOL) thinks I'm on crack. So what do you guys say? If everybody thinks i'm nuts i want a damn good reason why they say you have to cover that thing.

I'm not saying thats his problem but its something to look at if nothing else fixes it

mytight95 · Nov 19, 2005

i don't see any way water would throw the ignition timing "off" it would cause spark scatter etc.......but once you dry it out or replace the cap, rotor, etc. there is not way that it should still be affected. As far as the toyota truck having to have another timing chain because of water..... that is just inconceivable. i might understand it if it backfired, ran rough, or something like that and jumped timing, but not just from getting wet.

jason

MysteryMachine · Nov 19, 2005

humm maybe thats why the Machaniac that fixed it said thats what caused it to happen but what do I know

OrangeMustangGt · Nov 19, 2005

Jinx as i said, there is no way water will physically cause the base timing to change, and no way cause the timing chain to break....i mean the timing chain is driven off a complete diffrent part of the cam. And how is water gonna magically turn the 1/2 bolt at the base of the Dist. and then magically clock the housing? Maby you guys have special "water" down there in PA?

As for my problem, im 95% sure its the alt. As i said, it ran fine with it disconnected, and on the batt charger, however at one point it started to bog, and not hold revs, then it came back, my only thinking is that it was my batt charger cycling (which it does, on for a while then off for a while, etc)...so i think im in the clear on buying a new one...(damn this is costing me a lot of money, for no power increase!) Mystry Machine said i could bring my ALT to a parts store and they could test it, but i wonder if the tester they have will pick up whats wrong....i mean it still seems to charge.....anyhow, thanks again guys

mytight95 · Nov 19, 2005

mech. have been known to lie about stuff, they don't take an oath as a priest does. just and FYI, i merely stating my thoughts on it anyway.......and i am with you Kyle....

I would check the voltage regulator, it may be starving the ignition for power or something(just a thought i am not an expert), i do know around here you can get a starter and alternator shop to go through you alternator or starter and have it rebuilt better than new for less than a new one....... maybe something to look into since you mentioned the budget thing. I know i had mine redone(everything new) and upgreaded to 160 amps for just over 100$, and the upgraded was most of the price..

jason

MysteryMachine · Nov 19, 2005

not when the machinac is family. I searched on it when i told him i found a few places where people talked about covering the dizzy due to chainging your timing but most of them were rice forums so i didn't even bother to show him

Answer my question then WTF do you have to cover it if it don't hurt anything

mytight95 · Nov 19, 2005

MysteryMachine said:
not when the machinac is family. I searched on it when i told him i found a few places where people talked about covering the dizzy due to chainging your timing but most of them were rice forums so i didn't even bother to show him

Answer my question then WTF do you have to cover it if it don't hurt anything

lost cause i give up, Kyle replace your timing chain etc., and all will be well.

sorry for the clutter green, hope you get it worked out.

jason

urban96 · Nov 19, 2005

GreenMustangGt said:
Jinx as i said, there is no way water will physically cause the base timing to change, and no way cause the timing chain to break....i mean the timing chain is driven off a complete diffrent part of the cam. And how is water gonna magically turn the 1/2 bolt at the base of the Dist. and then magically clock the housing? Maby you guys have special "water" down there in PA?

As for my problem, im 95% sure its the alt. As i said, it ran fine with it disconnected, and on the batt charger, however at one point it started to bog, and not hold revs, then it came back, my only thinking is that it was my batt charger cycling (which it does, on for a while then off for a while, etc)...so i think im in the clear on buying a new one...(damn this is costing me a lot of money, for no power increase!) Mystry Machine said i could bring my ALT to a parts store and they could test it, but i wonder if the tester they have will pick up whats wrong....i mean it still seems to charge.....anyhow, thanks again guys

pep boys has a bench tester for alts. i got a new alt there a while ago for like 80-$90 with a lifetime warranty

mytight95 · Nov 19, 2005

didn't realize they were that cheap, if they were that cheap here i would have bought new w/ warranty.....course there isn't a pep boys for 200 miles either.

jason

HISSIN50 · Nov 20, 2005

Urban, you should buy a bunch of alts and sell them to members here - A new alt around here is double the price you quoted and reman'd units (puke) are 150-ish+.

urban96 · Nov 20, 2005

i think that was how much i paid, ill have to check the recipt <-always good to save all those

SeventyMach1 · Nov 20, 2005

mytight95 said:
I would check the voltage regulator, it may be starving the ignition for power or something(just a thought i am not an expert)

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking once the alternator issue was brought up. Take it to a local generator bench shop & have it checked. There's too much involved to "do it yourself".

My primary MOS (Army) is working on alternator, generators, starters, etc. A multimeter will get you a long way, but there's no way I could even check it out completely without the equipment they use (test stands). EX: "problem with armature assembly" ..... this sounds like a total mechanical issue .... however, it can be electrical, as there are certain continuity requirements within that have to be met.

Point is .... I'd take it to a shop & save $$ if I were you.

OrangeMustangGt · Nov 20, 2005

mytight95 said:
Kyle replace your timing chain etc., and all will be well.
jason

lol

Anyways, i checked at autozone, and a reman alt is like 169.00!!! damn man, how did you get it for soo cheap?

MysteryMachine · Nov 20, 2005

MysteryMachine said:
I'm not saying thats his problem but its something to look at if nothing else fixes it

It was a thought. It happend in the past. You yourself say you don't know if it could happen so don't sit there and say it can't. And if you don't want people to give ideas on how to fix a car then don't post that you need help.

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