Help me track down high NOx condition during CA Smog

TauMau

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Hey guys,

I recently picked up a well cared for (mechanically at least) 1986 Mustang GT T-Top 5 speed.

Just took the test today - results:

15 MPH
HC (PPM) | Max: 97 | Meas: 7
CO (%) | Max: 0.59 | Meas: 0.00
NO (PPM) | Max 804 | Meas: 1383


25 MPH
HC (PPM)| Max: 79 | Meas: 2
CO (%) | Max: 0.45| Meas: 0.00
NO (PPM) | Max: 685 | Meas: 512

Relevant work done within last 20,000 miles:

Engine rebuilt
Full 3" dual exhaust (Ford Racing Headers, Magnaflow mufflers and X-over)
Smog Pump replaced
FRPP 19 lb injectors
Walbro fuel pump
Thermostat
Oxygen sensors
DY-681 sensor (whatever that is)
Ignition coil
Ignition module
NGK Spark Plugs

It was built to go fast so maybe they removed something that wouldn't get picked up in the visual?? Passed EGR visual but I haven't opened it up to take a look.
 
Codes?

As you implied, I would take a look at the EGR. Or at least apply about 8" of vac to it and see if the car wants to stall. If it doesn't, something is likely not functioning properly or the EGR passages are clogged (so that inert gas can't make it back into the chambers).

If it tries to stall, be sure there is manifold vac to the EGR solenoid and that the solenoid energizes.

The position sensor should baseline out at about 0.50V. Be sure it's seated in its connector.

Jrichker will be along with his master list but this might get you started.

Good luck.
 
How to pass emissions testing:

High NO - high combustion temps - retard timing, check EGR for operation.
High CO – Rich condition - fuel pressure too high, check O2 sensors, replace air filter, Clean MAF element.
High HC – Lean misfire, vacuum leak, common misfire due to worn or weak ignition system components. On rare occasions, an overly rich mixture may be the cause. Do the ethanol/E85 fill up as suggested.
High CO & HC - Cat converters, smog pump, and smog pump controls.

How to pass emissions testing:

1.) Make sure all the emissions gear the car was made with is present and connected up properly. That includes a working smog pump and cats. The smog tech will do a visual check to make sure that all the original equipment is present and connected up.

2.) Make sure that you have fresh tune up with spark plugs, plug wires, cap, rotor, fuel & air filters. An oil & filter change is a good idea while you are at it.

3.) Dumping The computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

Revised 19-May-2009 to update drawing for dumping the codes on 86-88 Mustangs with no check engine light.

Dump the codes and see what the computer says is wrong…Codes may be present in the computer even if the Check Engine light isn’t on.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Here's the link to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

See Troublcodes.net Trouble Codes OBD & OBD2 Trouble Codes and Technical info & Tool Store. By BAT Auto Technical

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If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.

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The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.

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The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems.

Codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see Equus - Digital Ford Code Reader (3145) – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
Or for a nicer scanner see http://www.midwayautosupply.com/p-7208-equus-digital-ford-code-reader-3145.aspx– It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.


4.) Post the codes and get help to fix them. Don’t try to pass with codes not fixed. Clearing the computer just temporarily removes them from memory, it doesn’t fix the problem that caused the code to be set.

5.) Be sure to do the testing on a hot engine. Drive for 15-20 minutes prior to taking the test to get operating temps up into the normal range. Do not shut off the engine while waiting for your turn on the test machine. An engine up to full operating temperature puts out fewer emissions.
 
I retook the test today and passed. Steps taken:

Cleaned EGR (just some soot came out - don't think it affected me passing much)
Added "CRC Guaranteed to Pass" fluid then
Filled the tank with Chevron 91 octane
Drove the tank to near empty, refilled with Chevron 91 octane and took test immediately following.

Original test:
15 MPH
HC (PPM) | Max: 97 | Meas: 7
CO (%) | Max: 0.59 | Meas: 0.00
NO (PPM) | Max 804 | Meas: 1383


25 MPH
HC (PPM)| Max: 79 | Meas: 2
CO (%) | Max: 0.45| Meas: 0.00
NO (PPM) | Max: 685 | Meas: 512


Re-Test:
15 MPH
HC (PPM) | Max: 97 | Meas: 3
CO (%) | Max: 0.59 | Meas: 0.01
NO (PPM) | Max 804 | Meas: 553


25 MPH
HC (PPM)| Max: 79 | Meas: 3
CO (%) | Max: 0.45| Meas: 0.35
NO (PPM) | Max: 685 | Meas: 184



As you can see some numbers increased while a couple decreased. By following the above procedure I found a 60% decrease in NOx @ 15 mph and a 64% decrease in NOx @ 25 mph. It did however infinitely raise my CO levels from 0.00 to 0.35 - putting me near the danger zone for that one.
 
A little anecdotal information about why I specified Chevron fuel. My dad is a "higher up" in the oil refinement industry. He has told me in the past Chevron tends to be the cleanest fuel available. At least it was a few years ago, not sure about now. I choose to stick with it though.

Also the reason why I ran 91 octane. I have read high NOx indicates high combustion chamber temperatures. Higher octane lowers combustion chamber temperatures. However I have also heard from engine builders that running high octane fuel in an engine that doesn't require it will eventually result in excessive buildup caused by unburnt fuel. It's always been recommended to me that if the engine doesn't need 91, don't run it (occasionally is fine).
 
Going with lower octane (more complete burn) and less timing (if chamber temps are a concern) would be an alternative strategy.
 
That's true.

Re higher octane along, the increase in octane might hurt the readings, and with minimal load, any lowering of chamber temps is fairly negligible.