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92clevstang

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hi i bought a "rebuilt" t5 trans so i went thru the journey of replacing my busted up t5 for this "rebuilt" trans so after all that hard work i started up the car and went to put it in gear and nothing adjusted the cable started again and nothing it would only go into 3rd gear and grind like crazy tryin to put it in reverse when i try to put the trans in gear it feels like the trans is fighting with me and doesnt go in other than 3rd any help would be appreciated i have an oem stock clutch and cable i know its not the clutch or cable because its working fine right now with me busted trans help im at my wits end with this

 

Wildstringer

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will the trans go into gears when the car is not running

 

Mustang5L5

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What exactly do you mean when you say you went to Put it in gear and "nothing"


Wouldn't go in? Or went it but feels like neutral?

 

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92clevstang

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yeah the trans goes into gears when not running oh i meant when i try to put it in gear it wont go in it feels like something is preventing the gear from going in it would only go into 3rd gear but after we adjusted the cluth and replaced the cluth cable it made it worse now it wouldnt go into any gear

 

Wildstringer

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sounds like syncros could be bad or your clutch cable could be stretched and now its too long to completely disengage the trans.

 

Mustang5L5

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Try this....


With engine off, start the car in gear. Push the clutch in and start, but keep it in gear. Keep the clutch in the entire time you do this. Shift from the gear to nuetral and count to 10 second, now try to put it back in the same gear. If it doesn't go, your clutch is dragging and it's a clutch adjustment issue.

 

f8tlfiveo

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There needs to be an air gap of at least .060-.080 in between the clutch disc and the flywheel for proper disengagement. Check the pivot ball that the clutch fork mounts to. It may need shimmed. I would measure the old one and compare it to the new one. Also check the retainer on the trans( the shaft that the throwout bearing rides on) and make sure it's not too long. It could be limiting the travel of the clutch disc and not letting it disengage fully.

 

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92clevstang

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ive tried that the problem with that mustang5l5 is my trans the previous owner swaped out the safety neutral switch so when i try to turn the car like that the car jerks forward another wierd thing i forgot to mention is the when installing the trans we had a hell of time trying to get it to get it to go back in my old man and i finally walked the trans in and it worked i have the trans out and measuring everythin and all seems within specs we even check it agains my trans thats in my car right now any ideas on what might cause this i need to check the retainer though never though about that the previous owner of the trans said he swaped it out for a steel retainer

 

v8stang289

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If the car jerks forward when you start it in gear with the clutch pressed then you have clutch adjustment issues. It may be from a stretched cable or some other problem, but when you press the clutch it is not disengaging. So the input shaft of the trans is spinning and that makes it hard to put into gear and it will grind if/when it goes into gear.

 

Mustang5L5

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92clevstang said:

ive tried that the problem with that mustang5l5 is my trans the previous owner swaped out the safety neutral switch so when i try to turn the car like that the car jerks forward another wierd thing i forgot to mention is the when installing the trans we had a hell of time trying to get it to get it to go back in my old man and i finally walked the trans in and it worked i have the trans out and measuring everythin and all seems within specs we even check it agains my trans thats in my car right now any ideas on what might cause this i need to check the retainer though never though about that the previous owner of the trans said he swaped it out for a steel retainer

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If your car is jerking forward when you push the clutch to the floor, then the clutch is dragging and not fully disengaging. You more than likely have clutch issues and not trans issues.

If the trans was hard to install, there could be a serious issue or it could be the wrong trans. The bearing retailer shouldn't be an issue. I have one on my t5 and I easily slid my trans in while laying on my back.

with shifter in gear, and clutch to the floor, you are in neutral and car should not move at all

 

f8tlfiveo

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I am having a similar issue in my car right now.. I talked to bob Hanlon from Hanlon motorsports. ( he built my g force t-5) he put a new steel retainer in. So I called him about my problem and he suggested what I said earlier. My car when it's cold goes in gear ok, but after you drive it a little it's hard to get back into first when you get to a stop..I'm pulling my trans Friday night and shortening the retainer and checking air gap..That's the only thing I haven't checked yet.

 

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92clevstang

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but if the retainer is to long would it prevent it from being bolted on the block and wouldnt it damage the clutch disc

 

f8tlfiveo

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• Mar 4, 2011

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I think it is ok while the clutch is engaged. But when you try to disengage the clutch there is not enough room to fully disengage the disc. So I can still get it in gear but the clutch is dragging a little and making it harder to get into gear. I'm gonna find out tonight. I will post back when I figure it out.

 

f8tlfiveo

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Mar 5, 2011

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• Mar 5, 2011

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Trans out and back in.. 4 hrs, just took it out for a drive. Much better now, the retainer shaft was not seated in the base very good. I took it off and pressed it back in and cut 1/8 inch off the end.

 

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92clevstang

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alright imma check the my retainer shaft and see if theres a differnece in size thanks

 

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92clevstang

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• Mar 8, 2011

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alright so i checked my trans into a shop so far all gears with the exception of 2nd gear look good upon inspection the syncro for 3rd and 4th gear fell apart the guys in the process of putting everything back together and hopefully that fixes the issues with the trans