HID Kits

94-302-vert · Mar 5, 2009

What have you used? Single or Dual? Brand? Experiences? What light range (8000K or other)?

Thanks Guys. I am thinking about doing a single beam kit on the stang.

1987Rock · Mar 5, 2009

I've never had any experience with them, but a couple of my buddies have them on their Z71 Chevys. They're single beam from ebay and they work great. They've got the 12000 (purple) which made my eyes strain a little, but they're mom's got the 8000 (blue) and they do great.
I can dig up the ad/brand if you want. I don't think they're really a name brand, but they've got em on 4 trucks and had no trouble.

LastCallRacing · Mar 5, 2009

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Stopsign32v · Mar 5, 2009

I've got the dual beam 8000k. I cannot tell a difference at all between the high beam and low beam. Maybe you can if you have headlights that are designed for HIDs. I've got the clear Cobra headlights. If I were you I'd go with the single beam. American Muscle is where I got mine from. I like the 8000k alot, it has a slight blue to it. It would be a toss up between the 6,000k and the 8,000k.

inphiniti · Mar 5, 2009

chris... me personally, and you know personally how i am with my car... i think a single beam is MORE than enough... LCRs design they use is pretty nice, the SUPER small ballasts are wicked awesome. if done correctly, the setup could be real clean...

but anyways, depending on what color you want to go with, id probably go with a 6000k or an 8000k... anything else over 8000k is a little too much... just my .02 plus for $158, thats not a bad price, i might give LCR a whirl... i need something to match my white LED turn signals in my smoked housing anyways

PNW LSC · Mar 5, 2009

Stopsign32v said:
Maybe you can if you have headlights that are designed for HIDs.

Just to clarify, if it's designed for HIDs it would not use the style of bulb included with these kits. Stock Bi-Xenon setups use a shield that is able to be actuated up and down to create the high and low beam. I highly recommend switching to projectors if you really want HIDs, otherwise you're gonna be giving other drivers a real hard time with the glare that the reflector housings put out. Even projectors that aren't designed for HIDs are going to give you better light distribution and practically no glare. Plus you can have high beams.

Stopsign32v · Mar 7, 2009

PNW LSC said:
Just to clarify, if it's designed for HIDs it would not use the style of bulb included with these kits. Stock Bi-Xenon setups use a shield that is able to be actuated up and down to create the high and low beam. I highly recommend switching to projectors if you really want HIDs, otherwise you're gonna be giving other drivers a real hard time with the glare that the reflector housings put out. Even projectors that aren't designed for HIDs are going to give you better light distribution and practically no glare. Plus you can have high beams.

Just to clarify, by designed for HIDs I meant projector headlights and my new projector headlights work great with my HID kit that was in my Cobra lights.

OrangeMustangGt · Mar 7, 2009

do these kits replace the whole bulb? Basically with the single kit you would loose your low beams and high beams replaced by just hid on/off?

LastCallRacing · Mar 8, 2009

OrangeMustangGt said:
do these kits replace the whole bulb? Basically with the single kit you would loose your low beams and high beams replaced by just hid on/off?

Yes, our kit and the aftermarket kits replace the bulb, and plug directly into the bulb harness as if you were replacing your headlight bulb.

On the bulb wiring, there are 3 wires, ground, low beam (5v) and high beam (12v). OEM headlight bulbs are either are multi-function within the single bulb, or have two bulbs which depending on the voltage, switch accordingly. Our Single HID kits work off of the low voltage, and with the ballast, convert the signal to a much higher 23000v to operate the halogen. You don't get a high beam as our single kit's bulb is unable to switch, and it's rather similar to driving with high beams on the whole time.

Our Bi-Xenon kits have different bulbs, which do switch between low and high beam signals. The lightbulb still puts out a very bright beam in the low switch position, and at high beam, the lightbulb shifts and makes the light much more focused and directed. Very similar to how many flashlights work where you can adjust the beam by rotating it. The bulb itself doesn't become any brighter, but changing its position within the housing makes a huge difference.

webshot · Mar 9, 2009

@LCR

So you do not have to change the lens or housing to use these? If not is it recommended? Are there any legal issues with using these? For example certain states not allowing them? How do these work if your lenses are a bit yellow?

LastCallRacing · Mar 9, 2009

webshot said:
@LCR

So you do not have to change the lens or housing to use these? If not is it recommended? Are there any legal issues with using these? For example certain states not allowing them? How do these work if your lenses are a bit yellow?

Thanks for the question.

The install goes like this:

1 - Remove the original headlight bulb by rotating it and pulling it out.
2 - Remove the HID bulb from the plastic shipping casing, and plug it in, push in and rotate to the locking position.
3 - Plug one end of the ballast cables into the HID headlight cables
4 - Plug other ballast into the stock headlight cables.
5 - Use double sided sticker/tape, close hood, and you're done.

I'm a novice with video editing, but I'll soon put up a youtube video showing how easy it really is. The process takes 10 minutes, tops per light. Worst part, if any, is trying to get the headlight on the stock housing, if you've changed your stock bulbs before, you'll remember that even that's sometimes a pain to get it on right.

As a comparison, I did an install on a 97 v6 with 135k miles on it, and stock lenses that are horribly yellowed.

Guess which side has our HID kit on it? My cellphone picture doesn't do it full justice, the difference is truly amazing, this stuff is bright and sharp. That kit was for another customer's car, but I did *not* want to take it off and return to my stock bulbs after that.

Those pics were taken during the day, but I'll take a night-time pic tonight to show the real difference.

As far as laws go, the US mainly conforms to the SAE standards, which are rather tame compared to Europes ECE laws. Our SAE headlamps are aimed without regard to headlight height, which is why some of us in lowered cars are always blinded by the glare of higher up SUVs and trucks. From everything I've read, we, and everybody else with HID kits are perfectly within the laws.

-Patrick

1slow95 · Mar 9, 2009

Hmmm....I should probably get one of those HID kits. I can barely see anything at night since I installed the smoked headlights, even with Silverstar bulbs.

OT, does anybody know how to make the tail lights brighter?

LastCallRacing · Mar 9, 2009

Low-5.0 said:
Hmmm....I should probably get one of those HID kits. I can barely see anything at night since I installed the smoked headlights, even with Silverstar bulbs.

This would definitely help.

Here's an idea of how bright ours are.

OSRAM SYLVANIA - SilverStar

I had to use a cached copy of the Sylvania page, as their servers were messed up.

Anyhow, going by their 9004 specs are rated around 4000k, and their low beam is 700 lumens (+/- 15% makes it 595-805 lumens), and their high beam is 1200 lumens, (+/- 15% makes it 1020-1380 lumens). The variance is likely due to the operating wattages from 45w to 65w.

If any of you have home theater setups, or have used projectors at school/work meetings, 700-1000 lumens is about as bright as most projectors go. Kinda hurts to stare in it, but you have to turn the lights off to use it most of the time.

Now, our LCR HID kits feature 35w bulbs that put out around 3300 lumens (number slightly drops as your K increases). And if you want something ridiculously bright, we also have 55w kits available by request as well, but those put out an ungodly 5500 lumens, which are more for the Baja off-roader superbrights.

So, in perspective, the kits are more than twice as bright as the high beams, and 4x as bright as low beam lights. I've previously had a car with tinted headlights and had to run my high beams just to see things at night, and through the tinting, it was okay. These lights being as bright as they are will do just fine, and that goes for anybody, whether the housing is smoked, tinted, or yellowed...

-Patrick

Adam95GT · Mar 9, 2009

Hids=

i have bixenons

LastCallRacing · Mar 9, 2009

Adam95GT said:
Hids=

i have bixenons

http://lis.njleg.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=206095204&Depth=2&depth=2&expandheadings=on&headingswithhits=on&hitsperheading=on&infobase=statutes.nfo&record={E3BF}&softpage=Doc_Frame_PG42 said:
39:3-60. Use of multiple-beam road lighting equipment
Every person driving a motor vehicle equipped with multiple-beam road lighting equipment, during the times when lighted lamps are required, shall use a distribution of light, or composite beam, directed high enough and of sufficient intensity to reveal persons and vehicles at a safe distance in advance of the vehicle, subject to the following requirements and limitations: whenever the driver of a vehicle approaches an oncoming vehicle within five hundred feet, such driver shall use a distribution of light or composite beam so aimed that the glaring rays are not projected into the eyes of the oncoming driver, and in no case shall the high-intensity portion whic h is projected to the left of the prolongation of the extreme left side of the vehicle be aimed higher than the center of the lamp from which it comes at a distance of twenty-five feet ahead, and in no case higher than a level of forty-two inches above the level upon which the vehicle stands at a distance of seventy-five feet ahead.

I'm not much of a lawyer, but according to that law you were warned on violating, there is no description of what a high beam is, or measurements which define what is and what isn't a high beam.

For instance, in California, laws state that your exhaust in a passenger automobile cannot exceed 95 dBA measured 20 inches from the exhaust tip with the engine in neutral from 3000-5000 rpm. Anything over that is a violation, and the cops have devices to measure that as well.

If you have Bi-Xenons, simply demonstrating that there is a difference between low and high beam, you should be fine.

Zero_chance · Mar 9, 2009

Man I was trying to save money and now I have to see these HID kits on sale....

inphiniti · Mar 9, 2009

well i ended up getting a kit today... this kid in my area was selling a bunch of **** he had left over from his 02 gt and a HID kit happened to be one of them... i ended up scoring an 8000k single beam kit, which looks to be the same kit that american muscle sells (it also comes with the little brief case as well!) for $40!! i put them in, they look great, but they sorta drown out my LED turn signals in the corners... ill have to get some pics if i remember tomorrow nite, i also need to reangle my headlamps since theyre WAAYYY off... but yeah the 8000k looks great, and a full kit with about 3 months of use on it for $40, i couldnt say no!

inphiniti · Mar 10, 2009

figured id poost up some pics of the 8000k kit i got yesterday... its really not as blue as it seems in the pictures, this camera is starting to **** the bed... the first two pics are of the LED turn signals ive had for awhile... and the second set of pics are the HIDs/LEDs and then showing how much light is omitted through the smoked headlamps... i just need to reangle the lamps them selves,

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