How bad of shape am I in with a DP 2.3t?

Jugador · May 8, 2004

Well looking around, I see that this setup probably isn't the best, but I bought a dual plug, maf, stock ecu turbo 2.3 a while back. it runs like 10 lbs, but don't freak out, it's got forged low comp pistons. I hear that my head is probably going to be a problem because the na ones supposedly will burn valves a lot more easily than a turbo head, so then I thought, "how the heck will I run my ignition with only 4 plugs"? well word has it that you can splice one coil to another and run just one, but I don't see why you couldn't just run a single coil and either remove the other or just leave both and not use one. Then the question shifts over to what sensors would a turbo motor have that I don't. I bought 87 turbo coupe intakes off ebay and I see a couple more sensors than I thought I had...perhaps I just don't see them, or maybe I would just leave them unplugged if I don't have them? also, the EGR on the TC intake only has a vaccuum hookup while mine has some sort of (i guess you'd call it) pigtail coming off it and a vaccuum. I figured I would just use my current EGR on the new intake though which shouldn't be an issue.

well those are my immediate plans, any input/insults/wisdom is appreciated.

PS if this is going to be too big a project and I would have to swap to a turbo motor, what all work would be involved there? repinning my current harness for a turbo ecu or getting a whole new harness and having tons of wiring fun?

thanks guys, just answer any of the above if you know it. ANY help will be greatly appreciated

351wcoupe · May 8, 2004

I doubt the stock Ecm will get you far once you start turning up the boost.
Check out stinger's webpage and GT350R's. If you want to have an MAF set-up you might be best off to switch VAF, get a EEC-IV tuner and then switch to a V8 MAF.
That would eliminate to dual plug portion too.

I've only done the Speed Density to VAF so I'm not much help other than that. Those guys will know what sensors are different.

Jugador · May 8, 2004

well i have a nice proflow maf, but i assume it's calibrated for certain injectors, which would make it fairly limiting i assume...so i ponder the idea of big vam/La3/35 lb injectors sometimes...supposedly it's not too hard, but i'm not sure.

351wcoupe · May 8, 2004

I have a big vam/la3/ and 35 lb injectors.

(I know nothing of it) however....With the use of a Tweecer you can calibrate it as needed. There are people using ones from stock Mass-air mustangs which had 19 lb injectors I think.

Jugador · May 8, 2004

what can use tweecer, my ecu or LA3?

i4power · May 9, 2004

The LA3 is compatable with an EEC Tuner.

Pro-Hawk · May 9, 2004

Run a search on Yahooturboford groups for turbo'ed DP 2.3s. Look for a guy named Jaime he probly could help since he runs a few 2.3L DP DIS motors with 17 psi.

Stinger · May 10, 2004

If I were you I would just do a turbo swap just like anyone else (make all the same wiring changes), run the turbo ignition, computer, vam, intakes, and head, etc.

Jugador · May 10, 2004

is my block basically the same?

Stinger · May 10, 2004

If it does have forged turbo pistons as you said then yes, it's nearly the same. Doesn't have the oil return boss but obviously your runs into the pan or something which is fine.

Stinger

ka0tyk · May 11, 2004

id try and go with what you have... contact that guy and see what needs to be changed to run higher levels of boost safely... that'd be kinda neeto... theres no need to swap in a whole different motor when the one you have works... kinda. just gotta workout the bugs...

kiddiccarus · May 11, 2004

If you want to have less headache I would do as Stinger has mentioned and do the whole swap, BUT if you are in no rush, have the time to play with it and dont mind spending some money in the proccess then go for it and use what you have. Remember it is your car and the advice that you get is from what worked for other people. So ask questions and sort through the answers man. (Got a Dyno sheet for that? J/K)

Stinger · May 11, 2004

Maybe it was missed but when I said do the turbo swap I meant do everything BUT swap out the motor. Just put on a turbo head instead. I was just trying to get you to a known state where you know exactly what you have, what it will take, etc.

BTW, that mass air kit would almost fund your "swap" if you sold it on ebay.

slow2.3 · May 11, 2004

While we are on this topic, I am looking to do the samething.

Here is my composed list of what to buy inorder to do the swap.

Let me know if I am missing anything

ported e6
35lbs injectors
la3
complete head
speed pro forged pistons
turbo with intercooler
valve cover
oil return line
vam

Is there any other differences that would matter when putting a turbo on?

slow2.3

Jugador · May 11, 2004

Stinger said:
Maybe it was missed but when I said do the turbo swap I meant do everything BUT swap out the motor. Just put on a turbo head instead. I was just trying to get you to a known state where you know exactly what you have, what it will take, etc.

BTW, that mass air kit would almost fund your "swap" if you sold it on ebay.

that's what i was thinking, but then if you look at it from the whole swap perspective, it would end up being cheaper and would involve less work...and i could keep my current stuff as a backup.

and i have no idea what kind of injectors are on it (neither does my ford mechanic brother...it seems they were rebuilt) so i couldn't really do that exactly. i have no idea what injectors it's calibrated for, so it probably wouldn't go for much.

Stinger · May 12, 2004

Jugador said:
and i have no idea what kind of injectors are on it (neither does my ford mechanic brother...it seems they were rebuilt) so i couldn't really do that exactly. i have no idea what injectors it's calibrated for, so it probably wouldn't go for much.

I can't figure you out

It doesn't matter what size the injectors are, the meter is calibrated for them so they are a matched set (regardless of size) therefore it will bring good money.

Jugador · May 12, 2004

i wouldn't know what to advertise the injectors as, leaving people wondering if it's going to be good on their application

Stinger · May 12, 2004

I can tell you don't like my idea so I'll quit trying...

Jugador · May 12, 2004

no man, you're the master, i'm all ears...if you can somehow help me id these injectors i'd do it in a second.

Stinger · May 12, 2004

I'm no master...that's not the point. It's one of those deals where if you truly believe it won't bring much on ebay then you can create as many reasons as you want in order to keep that idea going...not knowing the size of the injectors doesn't even appear to be a MINOR issue to me...seems it's a huge wall for you though

You could always look for the ID #'s on the maf and contact the manufacturer to see what it's calibrated for.

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