how far to take timing with predator?

[swl987]

do most people max out their timing with the predator programmer? and i know about the article but that is just one case.

 

[propellerhead]

I had mine max'ed out to +10%. No pinging.

 

[Jinx]

Max Timing in upper rpms on mine is 20 to 23 degrees. I run 93 and have had no problems or pinging. However mine was custom set by James over at RWTD in Mobile, AL.

 

[prsrizdgt]

Do you happen to know what the timing is now at WOT? Or what it is on a stock program?

 

[KronicRacer]

I had mine max'ed out to +10%. No pinging.

did you do it on both rpm ranges? or just the upper rpm....
have you thrown any codes? and hows the gas mileage so far?
i started messing around with mine this morning and i liked what i felt with the butt-o-meter. i went back to the standard predator set up afterwards.

 

[KronicRacer]

also i got a P1000 code how long does the obdII test take to run? ive cleared it 4 times and it keeps coming back.(all since this morning.)

 

[Pertums]

I used to be at +5% on the 2 timing choices (part and WO throttle). After reading a bunch of guys here running +10%/+10% i decided last week to up it and see how it goes. So far no pinging and it's working like a charm. I had it back to stock +0/+0 for a few days before going to +10/+10 and there was a nice SOTP feel. Nothing major, but enough for me to say in my head 'that's an improvement'.

 

[triggz]

Full advance. I gained 8rwtq off 4% advance/87 octane.. don't know how much full is worth though. Definitely helps though.

 

[ToplessStang]

After reading about all these guys maxing out the timing with the predator with no pinging I decided to try +5% low range and +10% high range. The result, a new top speed at the end of the 1/4 . I run 94 octane.

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[Dan_Soprano]

After reading about all these guys maxing out the timing with the predator with no pinging I decided to try +5% low range and +10% high range. The result, a new top speed at the end of the 1/4 . I run 94 octane.

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you should be trapping in the high 13's with that trap speed!

 

[ToplessStang]

you should be trapping in the high 13's with that trap speed!

Well I get quite a few 13.9xx. I still can't get under my best of 13.823 that I ran before the Predator tune. With this predator tune installed I find it harder to get traction off the line.

 

[Crzyhrse]

Has anyone gone in the complete opposite direction? When I had my Mach dynoed and tuned with my Predator I gained 13 HP and 12 TQ with -12% timing at 4K-7K, and -6% at 2K-4K. Is that a Mach thing, or 4 valve thing or what?