How to make my stang beat 2005 gt ?

Killa · Feb 19, 2008

Will do pi swap very soon, any ideal ? he beat me a car today, I have no mod accept pi intake. Thanks

fobra559 · Feb 19, 2008

Only by a car? Wow, I thought it would be worse, good work keeping up with him bro. Actually, I'm on the same boat, except I have a 03 and my buddy has an 07. I wonder If I can keep up or beat him.

justinschmidt1 · Feb 19, 2008

KillaGT said:
Will do pi swap very soon, any ideal ? he beat me a car today, I have no mod accept pi intake. Thanks

full pi swap and you should be able to beat him....especially if he only beat you by one car now.

full pi swap, 4.10s, DRS and youll be beating up on them

mazen189 · Feb 20, 2008

haha , WHAT, only a car, when did u guys stop racing, 60mph??

i dunno about that, my Stock 03 GT beats my modded 98 GT all day long. i usually pull away really hard going into third gear.

04GTMustang · Feb 20, 2008

mazen189 said:
haha , WHAT, only a car, when did u guys stop racing, 60mph??

i dunno about that, my Stock 03 GT beats my modded 98 GT all day long. i usually pull away really hard going into third gear.

hahahaha thats what i was thinking. me and my bro are dead even with all my stuff except spray and he has a few mods too but still lol.

is he auto or 5spd and was he at wot?

if you do a full PI swap 4.10s, drag radials, and exhaust work and a good tune i think you will get him. just because of weight differences. but if he puts even a tune and intake and some gears on that thing your dead again lol.

Serper3 · Feb 20, 2008

yea, i mean i hate to admit it but if i ever to mess around with other cars on the road..(very safely ofcourse with no other cars around) alot of the time if i know its a slower car, i dont wot. i just give enough gas to be ahead of them and if they wanna go again, or think they where so close then i'll let it sceam and really open it up... i think its funner this way lol

04GTMustang · Feb 20, 2008

Serper3 said:
yea, i mean i hate to admit it but if i ever to mess around with other cars on the road..(very safely ofcourse with no other cars around) alot of the time if i know its a slower car, i dont wot. i just give enough gas to be ahead of them and if they wanna go again, or think they where so close then i'll let it sceam and really open it up... i think its funner this way lol

well thats how you hustle people at the track. always win by a little and say that you dont know how you won it must have been driver error in the other car cause he should have had you lol. it actually works cause it gets the person thinking this time im going to launch it better and get this guy but then you just push it a lil harder to stay ahead loll.

Killa · Feb 20, 2008

he stock with manual. i shift every 6k, and she very early.

04GTMustang · Feb 20, 2008

yea im sorry to say man but he was messing with you or shifting at like 4000 lol. Your car probably runs mid to high 14s and his car will easily click off high 13s. its going to take full PI swap like i said exhaust work gears and good tires.

they are fast cars those 3vs pull much harder than the 2v up top.

if you gear your car with exhaust work so like 4.10s with xpipe and catback and a tune and you race 1/8th mile with good tires you may win. just cause they are heavy cars so you will jump him with 4.10s but he will pull back but in an 1/8th mile its not going to be long enough for him to pull back enough

xmikevankuikenx · Feb 20, 2008

I'm going to say you will need cams and long tubes in addition to the pi swap to beat an 05+.

justinschmidt1 · Feb 20, 2008

full pi swapped, modded, tuned 96-98s can make 260-280 hp to the wheels and with some tires, 4.10s they can run low 13s with ease.

low 13s is more than enough to beat a 05+gt...unless the 05 gt had gears,DR's,intake with a tune....even then it would be a drivers race IMO

im not just talking out my arse...pi swapped 96-98s run mid to low 13s all day..

In fact, a dude just posted a 13.1 at 103 with gears,pulleys,exhaust,cai,pi heads and pi intake untuned( i think he had pi cams too)

CobraRed_96_GT · Feb 20, 2008

xmikevankuikenx said:
I'm going to say you will need cams and long tubes in addition to the pi swap to beat an 05+.

i second this. 05+'s are around 279rwhp/290rwtq stock. We have a slight weight advantage, so i'd say PI swap with gears and all bolts ons (including LT"s) or PI swap with stage 1/stage 2 cams and less gear - and some bolt ons. You need traction to winn every time. But it's really not that hard

justinschmidt1 · Feb 20, 2008

this guy with a 05 5 speed said this:

I went to the Dyno stock and ran 263.67 RWHP 284.31 RWTQ. She was running off the chart rich though. Installed a Steeda CAI, w/ Diablo Predator Tune...played around for a bit....282.67 RWHP 302.40 RWTQ and the A/F is much much better about 12.1

sn95 5 speed is like 3250
05+ 5 speed 3450

200 pounds is a pretty good differance....enought to make up for 30-40 hp I would say.

CobraRed_96_GT · Feb 20, 2008

usually with a tune and intake they are around 290-295/300. That's a lil dangerous territory for a 2V

And it's 3077 dry for a sn95, not 3250

04GTMustang · Feb 20, 2008

i dont think cams would be necessary as my brother has an 07 GT with 3.73s borla catback, jlt rai, and a xcal2 and from a roll he cant run away and neither can i and thats to 90mph from about a 20 roll. (this was done at the local run down airport)

at the track he still has yet to beat my time and trap speed the only part i have over him is the xpipe and tb and plenum. all else is the same. I admit though im a better driver than he is too.

but i say full PI swap with exhaust, gears, tune, and tires will beat one. but it will still be a very close race still and thats if he is stock. once they start modding its good game you might as well jump into FI lol.

04GTMustang · Feb 20, 2008

CobraRed_96_GT said:
usually with a tune and intake they are around 290-295/300. That's a lil dangerous territory for a 2V

And it's 3077 dry for a sn95, not 3250

yea 3250 is about what a new edge weighs

CobraRed_96_GT · Feb 20, 2008

well, i'll just say that id be suprised if a S-197 pulled on me after im done, especially if i can get LT's to work with smog

justinschmidt1 · Feb 20, 2008

CobraRed_96_GT said:
usually with a tune and intake they are around 290-295/300. That's a lil dangerous territory for a 2V

And it's 3077 dry for a sn95, not 3250

I hear so many differant curb weights for the sn...just trying to be safe with it but still 350+ lb differance is a lot.

331 pounds in the new evo makes the new one go 14.0 at 97 compared to the old one that went 13.4 at 103.

the new one is supposed to make 10 more hp and have 10 more ft lb of torque.

evo X FTL

s197s dont usually pull on me when I race them

xmikevankuikenx · Feb 20, 2008

My old dyno was 270hp/285tq with the following mods:

PI intake/Heads
Comp stage II cams
BBK Long tubes+full exhaust
Trick Flow Plenum, 70mm TB, CAI
SCT tune

CobraRed_96_GT · Feb 20, 2008

xmikevankuikenx said:
My old dyno was 270hp/285tq with the following mods:

PI intake/Heads
Comp stage II cams
BBK Long tubes+full exhaust
Trick Flow Plenum, 70mm TB, CAI
SCT tune

seems low, was it a mustang dyno or on a hot day/ high altitude?

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