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HP and 1/4mile guestimations before and after my Vortch S trim plese!

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I need to get a HP and QM guestimation before i put my supercharger on, and maybe you guess were ill be at afterwords. I just want to make sure this will get me were i want to be.

Ive got a 95GT convertable with these mods:
3.73 rear end
BBK Headers
Off Road H pipe
40 series flows,
Msd blaster coil
Ford Racing T5 superduty trans
BBK upper and lower controll arms
BBK subframe conectors
275/35-17 BFG drag radials in back
53,000 miles

Im adding a vortech S-trim supercharger at 8lbs.

What do you think im running now, and what will i be running afterwords

P.S. I know everyone hates these questions, but im just trying to get a good idea.
 

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Where are you located? Elevation is a key to guessing this.

Without knowing your drag racing experience and the elevation, here are my ball park guesses.

Before the vortech... 14.8-14.7 at ~92mph

After the blower... 13.7-13.6 at ~103mph
 
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Im in Detroit. Im very comfortable in the QM and dont forsee any problems there. Im kinda disapointed about running a mid 13 in a supercharged mustang though
 

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Im guessing about 315 to the wheels.
 
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That would be nice! Anybody think that could be close?
 

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verts are really heavy and not the fastest thing around.

your running a stock intake and heads, you have to figure that in. the stock intake is crap, its like a hooking a industrial 30" exhuast fan into a garden hose.
 
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I was under the impresion that the convertable had a curb weight of only 170 lbs over the coupe, though i may have read wrong. I wouldnt think 170 lbs would slow one down too much. As for the intake i agree. What would you say my best bet is for an intake running a SC? I was thinking maybe a trick flow, but if there are betters ones around for my app. im all ears! Thanks for all the help by the way
 

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for comparison, i lined up next to a stock auto vert with an o/r midpipe and blower and he ran a 13.7 @ 102.
 

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i think with a good 60' you could get mid to low 13's
 
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Im also adding a Cobra Gt-40 intake. Think that will help out?
 

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see sig
 

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When my vert had your mods it ran a 14.2 fwiw.
 

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Black Stampede said:
When my vert had your mods it ran a 14.2 fwiw.
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You ran a 14.2 with just gears and exhaust??? If so that's the fastest times I have ever heard of for a near stock car. I'm not one to normally call BS but there is no way I see a 14.2 from only those mods (3.73's and exhaust). With the same mods I ran a 14.96 at 91.5mph... that's a LONG ways away from a 14.2. Hell, for me to get into the low 14's it took gears, pulleys, exhaust, headers, TB, home made CAI, and an edelbrock intake. The result was a 14.3 at 97.2mph on street tires and a 13.8 at 98.5 on drag radials. I concider myself an above average driver too.
If you had pulleys and a low elevation track then I could see it being a possibility as the track I ran my numbers at is a solid 2 tenths and 2mph slower than some of the others I race at due to elevation. What was your 60' on that run? I couldn't do better than a 14.3 with a 2.08 60' due to the fact that on the 1-2 shift it'd spin the tires hard.


There was a local guy here at a dyno day last weekend with a stock 94-95 'vert with an S trim and he made 278 at the wheels if memory serves me right. I'll check with yeahloh95 as I know he knows for sure. With the mods listed and a stock S trim setup I think those numbers are about right. However, when you start adding things like a power pipe, TB, intake, etc then I can totally see 330rwhp+ being very attainable and the 1/4 numbers will reflect that. With ONLY the mods listed above I think my quessimates are pretty accurate.

The GT40 intake is a decent piece, and it looks great, but there are cheaper and better alternatives out there if you are buying one new. A new intake will definitely help your car though!
 

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i just watched a car dyno this weekend ,same mods no intake, no power pipe, and it made 275 to the wheels. i think an intake might put you at 300 with the blower and get you into the low 13's, high 12's on a good day with traction.
 
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Im basicly looking to get into the high 12s. If these mods wont do it, ill go with and aggresive tune and hopefully that will do it. I plan on running on micky track slicks so that will help, but if i still need more, ill go with 10lbs of boost, 24lb injectors, and a 190 pump. That should certinly take me to the dance. Any tips from you guys though who are there now would certinly help
 

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i have the parts to get you there pm me for details
 

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its an intake throtele body and spacer that will work great with your combo
 
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what kind of throtle body and spacer and how much do you want for it?
 

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Killercanary said:
You ran a 14.2 with just gears and exhaust??? If so that's the fastest times I have ever heard of for a near stock car. I'm not one to normally call BS but there is no way I see a 14.2 from only those mods (3.73's and exhaust). With the same mods I ran a 14.96 at 91.5mph... that's a LONG ways away from a 14.2. Hell, for me to get into the low 14's it took gears, pulleys, exhaust, headers, TB, home made CAI, and an edelbrock intake. The result was a 14.3 at 97.2mph on street tires and a 13.8 at 98.5 on drag radials. I concider myself an above average driver too.
If you had pulleys and a low elevation track then I could see it being a possibility as the track I ran my numbers at is a solid 2 tenths and 2mph slower than some of the others I race at due to elevation. What was your 60' on that run? I couldn't do better than a 14.3 with a 2.08 60' due to the fact that on the 1-2 shift it'd spin the tires hard.
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Ha, sorry bout that. I also had pulleys and a CAI, which yes, makes it more reasonable, yet I think still pretty quick since it was on street tires. So yeah I had everything you had aside from the intake and TB. 60 ft was a 2.0
 
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Trick Pony said:
Im basicly looking to get into the high 12s. If these mods wont do it, ill go with and aggresive tune and hopefully that will do it. I plan on running on micky track slicks so that will help, but if i still need more, ill go with 10lbs of boost, 24lb injectors, and a 190 pump. That should certinly take me to the dance. Any tips from you guys though who are there now would certinly help
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10#'s of boost on 24# injectors is asking for trouble. jew crasy mang?
why waste your time buying the 190. the 255 is like the same price and flows more for later. do it once.
 
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