I call BS! How about you?

SMOKEDYA · Apr 22, 2010

Guy claims to make 324/300 at the wheels 36* timming pump gas and carb, in a fox hatch mostly gutted auto trans no brake 3.73 gears.Runs 11.4 and a 11.20. Full front and rear syspension is done! I call B.S big time on those numbers! Oh yeah 8" micky thompsons D/R's and front skinnies. peace

john

Gearbanger 101 · Apr 22, 2010

With stock heads and compression....yes, I call as well.

90lxcoupe · Apr 22, 2010

whats so hard to believe? Dyno numbers dont really mean ****, esp with an auto

85_SS_302_Coupe · Apr 22, 2010

If he actually makes that much power he can definitely run high 11s but i don't see him going low 11s with 324hp at the wheels unless his car weighs 2000 pounds.

Gearbanger 101 · Apr 22, 2010

90lxcoupe said:
whats so hard to believe? Dyno numbers dont really mean ****, esp with an auto

You're not making 324rwhp on pump gas (or even race gas) with little more than an aftermarket carb/intake......I don't care what transmission you're backing it all with. As the matter of fact, you wouldn't even see those power figures on an engine dyno with no drivetrain loss at all.

Swapping out to a carb and and intake has been known to add a few horsepower on the top end over EFI on occasion, but not 150hp+ at the crank....no way!!!!

skunk21 · Apr 22, 2010

Like the others stated unless you come back with a list of motor mods he has done to support it. most of us have been on the boards long enough to know what it takes to get these motors to push out those #'s at the wheels.

Tanus · Apr 22, 2010

the trap speed would definitely help me weigh the legitimacy of the claim

dave181760 · Apr 22, 2010

well if he claims that then my mitsubishi lancer does wheel stands all day with water in my gas tank

GroverDill · Apr 22, 2010

rest of mod list please.

Repostyle · Apr 22, 2010

crapola

NIKwoaC · Apr 23, 2010

Why is everybody assuming he has stock heads? Those power numbers are more than reasonable for a well planned out 302/306, especially if he actually built the engine to rev past 5500 rpm.

As far as the ETs go, yea, that might be a stretch. Who knows, he did say the car is "gutted".

Repostyle · Apr 23, 2010

I get the impression from John that the guy is saying it's a stock 302 with a different carb and suspension, that's it.

SVT32VDOHC · Apr 23, 2010

7upstang91 · Apr 23, 2010

Repostyle said:
I get the impression from John that the guy is saying it's a stock 302 with a different carb and suspension, that's it.

No one ever said it was stock, it has to have heads at least for those numbers.

If he was going to lie in the first place, I would hope he would be smart enough to "have" more horsepower than that.

I call until we see futher mods though. The car has to be completely gutted too.

SMOKEDYA · Apr 23, 2010

Heres what i know about it. 351W 30 over AFR 185 heads 9:5.1 compression i beleive? my buddy seen the car go 11.4 then11.2 and the guy claims thats what he made at the wheels. I find it hard to beleive,i think it makes more or theres a bottle hidden somewhere?peace

john

7upstang91 · Apr 23, 2010

SMOKEDYA said:
Heres what i know about it. 351W 30 over AFR 185 heads 9:5.1 compression i beleive? my buddy seen the car go 11.4 then11.2 and the guy claims thats what he made at the wheels. I find it hard to beleive,i think it makes more or theres a bottle hidden somewhere?peace

john

I am thinking those dyno numbers have to be off.

a885.0 · Apr 23, 2010

I think its very possible, an auto with a high stall can do some weird things on a dyno..You said it is mostly gutted and has full suspension...I don't see what is so hard to believe here??

Shaolin Crane · Apr 23, 2010

SMOKEDYA said:
Heres what i know about it. 351W 30 over AFR 185 heads 9:5.1 compression i beleive? my buddy seen the car go 11.4 then11.2 and the guy claims thats what he made at the wheels. I find it hard to beleive,i think it makes more or theres a bottle hidden somewhere?peace

john

351 with AFR's seems like it should make those number easily

thethirdeye88 · Apr 23, 2010

a885.0 said:
I think its very possible, an auto with a high stall can do some weird things on a dyno..You said it is mostly gutted and has full suspension...I don't see what is so hard to believe here??

agreed...

Gearbanger 101 · Apr 23, 2010

NikwoaC said:
Why is everybody assuming he has stock heads?

7upstang91 said:
No one ever said it was stock, it has to have heads at least for those numbers.

Well, when he stated the guy’s original list of mods, heads weren't mentioned. So, based on the info listed.....yes, we were led to believe it was a stock long block with little more than a carb swap. In which case those horsepower and quarter mile time would have been bunk.

Guy claims to make 324/300 at the wheels 36* timming pump gas and carb, in a fox hatch mostly gutted auto trans no brake 3.73 gears.Runs 11.4 and a 11.20. Full front and rear syspension is done! I call B.S big time on those numbers! Oh yeah 8" micky thompsons D/R's and front skinnies. peace

....but now

SMOKEDYA said:
Heres what i know about it. 351W 30 over AFR 185 heads 9:5.1 compression i beleive? my buddy seen the car go 11.4 then11.2 and the guy claims thats what he made at the wheels. I find it hard to beleive,i think it makes more or theres a bottle hidden somewhere?

Did you not think it might have been relevant to mention the fact that he was running a 9.5:1 357ci and not a stock 9.0:1 302ci....or AFR 185's and not stock Iron castings when you initially laid out his list of mods.

Knowing what we do now, 324rwhp/300rwtq and 11-second ET's in a stripped car is actually quite feasible. As a matter of fact, I'm actually inclined to believe he's down a little or the torque side.

I call BS! How about you?

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