I hate the communist movement in Portland

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OregonMustang

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Someone spit all over my car in Portland today.

So I put this little bumper sticker in my window "George Bush in 2004" and some bastard spit all over my car today. My new 04 Black Cobra. What a bunch of dicks.

They blame our president for there lowely existance. And John Kerry is riding their hatered all the way to the bank. Our good budy Johnny thinks that we as American citizens are stupid completly in-competent and need the government to hold thier hand while they wait in line for handouts so they don't starve. Don't get me wrong charity is a good thing. Everyone can use it once it a while...it's just not on my TOP 10 list of life styles.

I'm really starting to get pissed off at these Kerry dorks here in Portland. They now are leaving gourds on the county buidling steps with the name "bush" meticulously carven in on them. i.e. "Squash Bush". What is thier major malfunction. These people have soo much free time to craft ways to over throw our goverement and undermine our president. Why don't they get freaking job...or a life for that matter.

Why are so many our fellow citizens in capable of surviving without federal assistance. I mean what the hell. This is not France. We don't have 4 day work week...and moan because our goverment wants to add an extra hour a week to our 30hr work week. We do not suffer because our nation's not competive againts countries in the previous soviet block. You want to see real outsourcing look at any socialist country...like say France! They are loosing jobs faster then they can write them off. When everyone makes the same or relative same wage...where is the incentive to do a good job? Quality control goes out the window. How many French cars have you purchased in the last 10 years? The unemployment rate in soclialist nations is skyrocketing. And becuase they are socialist the only job in town is to work for the Government.

Free market based countires are eating thier socialist countries lunch. So the French government and others are now embarking on Nation bidding for contracts. That's right companies like AeroBus are trying to take our Western jobs throught government subsidies to lower the cost for production. We do similar things but not on a multi-national effort. We are at economic war right now with those nations that did not stand beside us....France, Germany and Russia all had HUGE dollars and contracts in countries like Iraq, Iran and yep...Sudan. The UN is a freaking joke...it's so corrupt that I'm not sure they even know where they stand on any particular issue anymore.

We are at war now with the socialst elite nations in Europe. Notice how Great Brittan, Poland, Australia stand with us. For the most part Capitalist nations in all.

I come from a poor family where my mother refused welfare even though she had 3 kids to feed. My alcaholic dad left us when I was 10 and never gave us a dime. My mother worked her butt off. And God bless her I would not have the persaverence and drive that I have today without her. God rest her soul. I remember eating potato pankes many nights as a boy. I was a poor student in grade school because I was teased about being the poor kid or strange.

I'm now in my 30's with a post military college degree...have 2 companies..and make a very good living as a computer programmer and have a lovely home and family. If I can do it anyone can. We don't need the Euro goverment tit...to live by.

Sorry for the rant....

Just pisses me off that so many Kerry folks are just down right asses. I have yet to flip off...spit at ...yell at our ...do anything mean to a single kerry person. I say vote...I don't care who you vote for ...but just vote and respect everyone others right to vote. That's what counts.

Eric "Oregon Mustang" :flag:
 
Ohh boy there we go again… Politics :nonono:
1st of all I feel for you in having your spitted on, but if you know it was a Kerry fan why didn’t you confront him, or are you just one of those paranoid republicans that blames everything on democrats?
2nd France is not a socialist country; just because the party in power is socialist the type of government is not socialist.
3rd Australia is not in Europe
4th Poland is yes nodding to us because they want us to include them as part of the European countries that can get in the US without visas.
5th "AeroBus" is a monorail system, but if you’re referring to “AeroBus” as “Airbus” then they're not doing anything more than Boeing is doing or already did.
I’m done with this, you are so mal informed that it’s a joke, and next time make sure your spell-check when you try to pass as smart writing something like this, but the funniest thing is what you said about UN!!! :rolleyes:

I'm happy for you, your family and your success in life but please make sure you are better informed on subjects like this next time. PSU has wonderful classes in political science that would help. :nice:
 
Darkness said:
Ohh boy there we go again… Politics :nonono:
1st of all I feel for you in having your spitted on, but if you know it was a Kerry fan why didn’t you confront him, or are you just one of those paranoid republicans that blames everything on democrats?
2nd France is not a socialist country; just because the party in power is socialist the type of government is not socialist.
3rd Australia is not in Europe
4th Poland is yes nodding to us because they want us to include them as part of the European countries that can get in the US without visas.
5th "AeroBus" is a monorail system, but if you’re referring to “AeroBus” as “Airbus” then they're not doing anything more than Boeing is doing or already did.
I’m done with this, you are so mal informed that it’s a joke, and next time make sure your spell-check when you try to pass as smart writing something like this, but the funniest thing is what you said about UN!!! :rolleyes:

I'm happy for you, your family and your success in life but please make sure you are better informed on subjects like this next time. PSU has wonderful classes in political science that would help. :nice:
Paul, you're well informed...
 
Just got to correct you on one thing Paul. Airbus does recieve funding from the French govt. Not as contracts, but as direct funding. Boeing does not. This is the definition of Socialism, i.e.- State ownership of industry.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=socialism
It is also little known, but a large part of French govt intelligence gathering would be considered corporate espionage.

As for politics, get used to being a socialist, communist, liberal, democrat, or whatever you want to call it, because people in general are getting lazy and want things handed to them on a platter. Not saying its right, just an observation of a sociological trend. As long as I have the freedom to own a gun and a fast car :D , then I think we are doing ok... :flag:
 
ZeroCool said:
Don't make me take you out with my V-tec! :banana:
V-tec? If you're having trouble with that little green snail, I wonder if you meant VORtecH ... :D.

OregonMustang: There is a lesson in your story -- thou shalt not put bumper stickers on your car. I'll probably vote for the "commie" (certainly not going to vote for Dubya :D), but I'm sure as hell not going to put a sticker to that effect on my car...

Dave
 
OregonMustang said:
So I put this little bumper sticker in my window "George Bush in 2004" and some bastard spit all over my car today. My new 04 Black Cobra. What a bunch of dicks.

So there are dicks on both sides.
My mother-in-law put a Kerry/Edwards lawn sign in her front yard a month ago in Conroe, near Houston, and someone trenched her front yard with their big-ass truck with its mudders... taking out not only the sign, but several nice bushes and alot of lawn.

So if you really need to surround yourself with people unlike me (a person who will vote for Not-Bush, I mean Kerry), you may have to move to Houston :)

And lets not get in a debate over Socialism. If Airbus demonstrates socialism, then every farm in this country that recieves farm subsidies (and thats everyone that can) is also socialism. Neither are. Socialism is where the government controls the industry through ownership. The French Government does not OWN Airbus, and neither does is even control the industry.

And for God's sake, Kerry's supporters are NOT COMMUNISTS. The equivilent is saying all Bush supporters are Fascists. I'll be a Communist if you be a fascist. ;)
 
Darkness said:
2nd France is not a socialist country; just because the party in power is socialist the type of government is not socialist.

Socialism is not ‘type of government’, it is more accurately characterized as an economic system – the system of production, consumption, and distribution of resources/goods/services. It is true that France’s government is indeed controlled by the socialist party. This is a recent development from March 2004 which only serves to illustrate the trend (at least in public opinion) pointed out by both Jordan and the original poster toward more centrally controlled markets and social welfare policies. If you want to get picky then France, in terms of political structure, is actually a republic based largely on the Roman law structure – sharing several similarities with our system.

Now that the government issue out of the way, the question still remains, is France a socialist country? While I would not go so far as to say they are, at least by strict definition, they certainly more socialist than a lot of countries. While the term is widely used to describe a variety of policy there are some basic indicators: 1) interference by the government to create a “just and equitable distribution of property and labor” 2) social reform which disturbs the present system of private property 3) support of state ownership of industry including healthcare, education, energy, banking, communications, transportation, etc. Now let’s look at France. The parliament there runs all healthcare, education, electricity (EDF), gas (GDF), telecommunications (France Telecom), and railways along with a vast array of social programs that subsidize everything from housing to the industries that they don’t already control. Granted, the US has several similar policies (most of which I disagree with) which are also socialist in nature; yet the US is not commonly regarded as a socialist country. The point is that there is a spectrum, and France does fall further ‘left’ on that scale.

I’m not going to get into the election issue, there is far too much there to say. I also won’t get into the many other reasons why Poland supports US policy, or the topic of international contract bidding practices and its effect on US industry. What I will say is this, I think a lot of the reason political discourse gets a bad name is because of the lack of respect people show others when faced with a conflicting view point, on all sides.

"Just pisses me off that so many Kerry folks are just down right asses."
"you are so mal informed that it’s a joke"

Rather then use facts to educate, or even when they do, people feel the need to cut down those that raise an alternative point by bashing on conventions and making unfounded condescending remarks regarding the education level and intelligence of a person they know little about. There are some things you don’t learn in school. The conditioned response to a policy or public interest discussion should not be defensiveness and anger, there’s no reason or place for it.
 
Darkness said:
You think yo're better than others? So you believe you're part of what class of citizens then?









Lemme see....hmm the one that cant get into 12's :D :banana: :flame:

here lemme fix that quote for you...

Darkness said:
hello, Pot?...This is Kettle....

;)

Seriously though, the democrats aren't comunists, they're socialsts, and the Republicans aren't Fascists, they're Capitolists :p

and the next time I see someone try to discredit someone else because of their spelling or grammer i'm just going to punch them in the face and steal their jacket.
 
WaterPog said:
Seriously though, the democrats aren't comunists, they're socialsts, and the Republicans aren't Fascists, they're religious zealots
Fixed :).

and the next time I see someone try to discredit someone else because of their spelling or grammer i'm just going to punch them in the face and steal their jacket.
As they say, read for content, not for grammar. :nice:

Dave
 
WaterPog said:
most people vote their wallet, regardless what they will tell you to your face.
Here's a billionaire CEO who agrees with you. Here are few quotes from an article that I read online today.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005669

Sumner Redstone said:
Sumner Redstone, who calls himself a "liberal Democrat," said he's supporting President Bush.
Mr. Redstone declared: "I look at the election from what's good for Viacom. I vote for what's good for Viacom. I vote, today, Viacom.

"I don't want to denigrate Kerry," he went on, "but from a Viacom standpoint, the election of a Republican administration is a better deal. Because the Republican administration has stood for many things we believe in, deregulation and so on. The Democrats are not bad people. . . . But from a Viacom standpoint, we believe the election of a Republican administration is better for our company."
There are a few more details in the article that are interesting. Maybe this good old liberal is just sucking up to Bush and trying to cover his ass for some of the vile poop his companies spew onto the public.
 
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