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vristang

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I would like to get one of the 2 Mustangs out on the road coarse at Pacific Raceway next year.

I need to know where to get technical/safety requirements, and any other rules for getting out on the track.

I checked PR website but couldn't find what I needed.

Can someone post a link or something?

Many Thanks
jason
 

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i did the mustang ride and drive this year that was part of the roundup for my first track day. i would definately recommend it for you next year. I had so much fun. The safety requirements are probably still on mustangsnorthwest.com if not, they were not all that strict. just get a helmet and you should be good.
 

vristang

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I have missed the drive with my daily driver every year since 96. This year I was still putting in the stroker.

I bet it was fun, I am jealous.

Thanks for the reference.

Any other sources out there?
 
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03SHKR

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vristang said:
I have missed the drive with my daily driver every year since 96. This year I was still putting in the stroker.

I bet it was fun, I am jealous.

Thanks for the reference.

Any other sources out there?
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I wish Pacific Raceway had more open track events like the one put on by Mustangs Northwest (I really like that track). I've done a number of these events with different organizations. I've been at Pacific Raceway twice. And the rest was at PIR (Portland). I have had a blast at all of them.

With that said, there are a few organizations with slightly different rules and requirements. Here's some links.

Cascade Sports Car Club
http://www.cascadesportscarclub.org/training.asp?page=home
Shelby Club
http://www.saacnw.org/TrackPack2005.pdf
Rose City Corvettes
http://rosecitycorvettes.org/pdf/2005rccclassic.pdf
Team Continental
http://www265.pair.com/tcscca/TC/tcdrvtng.htm

It might just be my old eyes.... But, please, do me a favor..... Don't use that little text anymore... That $h!t is hard to read....
 

vristang

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03SHKR said:
I wish Pacific Raceway had more open track events like the one put on by Mustangs Northwest (I really like that track). I've done a number of these events with different organizations. I've been at Pacific Raceway twice. And the rest was at PIR (Portland). I have had a blast at all of them.

With that said, there are a few organizations with slightly different rules and requirements. Here's some links.

Cascade Sports Car Club
http://www.cascadesportscarclub.org/training.asp?page=home
Shelby Club
http://www.saacnw.org/TrackPack2005.pdf
Rose City Corvettes
http://rosecitycorvettes.org/pdf/2005rccclassic.pdf
Team Continental
http://www265.pair.com/tcscca/TC/tcdrvtng.htm

It might just be my old eyes.... But, please, do me a favor..... Don't use that little text anymore... That $h!t is hard to read....
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Thanks for all the great resouces.

I will check to see if I have some setting messed up, but from here my text looks the same size as yours (and everyone elses).
 

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Do you want to do Open track events like the Mustang Round Up day or Club racing. If you interested in club racing contact the following local clubs-
SCCA NW
IRDC

Brad's Custom Auto keeps a good calendar of events. Check their Events Calendar. You will find links there to club open track events, club racing and driver education/shools. The BMW, Alfa and many other car clubs put on driving events at Pacific and Bremerton.
The SCCA Time Trials program is a great way to get a taste of competition with out the risk of going door to door. It also requires less safety equipment.
Below is some information on IRDC events that will get you in the right direction.
If you interested in road racing, you should go to Pacific Raceways this weekend. Stock Cars, SCCA, Spec Miata, and Legends on the road course.


Track / Driver Education Days

Track/Driver Education Days offer you the opportunity to get track time in your street or higher prepared car at Bremerton Raceways. These are not a pre-requisite for the Novice Program, nor do they qualify you to start the Novice Program. But they are another opportunity to practice on track. A limited number of Driver Instructors are available for personal in-car coaching. We are offering two Track/Driver Education Days in 2005.


October 29, 2005, Saturday

Because of rising costs and the popularity of this event, there are new Pricing, Registration, and Payment Procedures. There is a FAQ at the end to answer some questions.

There will be four run groups. Three door slammer groups, beginner, intermediate, and advanced. One open wheel/sports racer. Each group is limited to 22 cars, first come, first served.
-Open to street cars, racecars, open wheel formula, and sports racers. We'll run til dark! Everyone will get lots of track time.
-Convertibles must have a roll bar, exceptions, Porsche 914, Fiat X1/9, Volkswagen Cab, Porsche Boxster with factory hard top attached, Miata with hard top attached. Others inquire before hand.
-Helmets required for Drivers and Passengers, street car factory belts OK.
-Valid Washington or Oregon State, or equivalent, Driver's License required for all drivers.
-Gates open at 7:30am, Mandatory Drivers Meeting at 8:45, first cars on track at 9
-Rookies will be teamed up with Senior drivers.

$40 per car per run group for IRDC members. Registration is open for IRDC members until March 11. On March 11, non filled spots are open to other car clubs, at a cost of $60 per car, per run group. Or join IRDC for the reduced rate. IRDC members can still sign up after the 11th, if spots are still available.

Pre-register via e-mail porschesteve@hotmail.com or snail mail (see address below).
Include:

Name of driver(s),
Type of car
Preferred group to participate in:
Beg.
Int.
Adv.
Open Wheel/Sports Racer
if you have questions about which group you fit in to, email Steve

Send check or MO, made out to IRDC, to:

Steve Barnes
644 Strander BLVD, Apt #354
Seattle WA 98188.

If your check does not arrive by March 28th, you may forfeit your spot. This is NON-REFUNDABLE

Bremerton Raceways is adjacent to Bremerton Airport. From Seattle it is a real toss up whether to Ferry an hour and a half or more if the boats are messed up, or drive down through Tacoma an hour and a half without traffic.
FROM TACOMA
Travel Highway 16 toward Bremerton. Take the Tremont exit in Port Orchard and go left on Old Clifton Road. Go Left on Sunnyslope Road. Immediate right on Clifton road to end.
Ferry schedules if you want to try the Ferry.

FAQ
It used to be 40 bucks per car unlimited drivers, why per group now? Well, this event has gotten very popular, and to keep it fun, we must keep the number of cars on track at a reasonable amount-22 is just about the max. The track rental has DOUBLED since last year. If 22 cars showed up they all ran three groups we'd lose money! Now I know that won't happen, but let's face it, $40 per group is still pretty cheap!

I used to just pay at the gate, why do I have to send a check now? Well, if you reserve a spot and don't show, someone may be turned away that would have been able to participate, and the club would be out those funds. This will prevent that from happening.

Can I still show up, the day of the event, registrar, and pay at the gate? Yes, but there will be no guarantees that there will be a spot for you! Just mail in the $40/$60 bucks and DO IT! OK, OK, the sun's out and you are mad at your boss, blow the day off and come over, you might get in!

Contact Steve Barnes at 360-446-0847, no calls after 9pm please.
 
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ccjcobra99

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vristang said:
I would like to get one of the 2 Mustangs out on the road coarse at Pacific Raceway next year.

I need to know where to get technical/safety requirements, and any other rules for getting out on the track.

I checked PR website but couldn't find what I needed.

Can someone post a link or something?

Many Thanks
jason
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MTN posted some really good information, but I wanted to add that in terms of equipment required I would make the following recommendations:

I would really recommend a drivers school w/ Proformance. http://www.proformanceraceschool.com They also have links to track event schedule (theirs), and what to look for in a tech inspection.
1. You will need a good helmet... MTN can help you out there @ Bradscustomauto.com I would recommend an SA rated 2000 or newer helmet.
2. As a beginner stick with street non 'R' compound tires. You will learn more and it will keep your speeds down a bit until you have learned how to better react when things go poorly.
3. The best tech/safety item to work on is the driver. Another good drivers training direction would be the bi-annual basic driving school (less basic then it sounds) with the NW Alfa club http://welcome.to/nwarc

I hope that helps.

Clarke
 

vristang

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Thanks for all the great responses. I wasn't sure what I'd get.

My thoughts are to run in open track events until I learn more, and rack up some experience.

As far as the car... Since the 408w GT is running pretty strong now I feel I can use that for a daily driver, which leaves the 4cyl LX for a hobby car. I think that shaving the heads, cutting weight, and working the suspension would yield a fun car for a rookie driver. This would be a full race setup, trailer and all. When my experience and skills improve I can easily switch over to a 5.0 or bigger, since I have most of the parts.
 
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I am sorry but whe i was reading over the info it didn't seem aparent if a racing license was required.

i know it would be recommended, but would they let me participate in an event without going to a class before?
 
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tarch said:
I am sorry but whe i was reading over the info it didn't seem aparent if a racing license was required.

i know it would be recommended, but would they let me participate in an event without going to a class before?
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Nope. Not needed.. I don't have a racing license and I have done a number of events.
 
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tarch said:
I am sorry but whe i was reading over the info it didn't seem aparent if a racing license was required.

i know it would be recommended, but would they let me participate in an event without going to a class before?
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Tarch, no licences required but often clubs expect you to run THEIR novice program before heading out for open lapping. BMW and Alfa will not let a novice out at PIR without participating in their program, but if you have done the Proformance school it will likely qualify you for open lapping. In truth getting the instructors input at a novice level is incredibly helpful. I have been running Pacific for 10+ years 3-4 events / year. My first time back at PIR in 12 years, a friend of mine (an instructor for Proformance) co-drove and instructed me to help me learn the line, offered pointers for braking points and so on. It was incredibly helpful in getting me up to speed. By the end of the day I could hold my own in the top group with the Z06's, Porches and Vipers.
 

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Clarke is right, the more seat time and instruction you can get the better.
If you start off not learning bad habits you will be better off in the long run.
The 4 Cyl race car is a really good idea. It will be a great way to learn in a low horsepower car. Low horse power cars make you work on your driving instead of using HP as a crutch.
 

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I wanna go when I get my car back up and running, prolly next summer. I wanna learn how to heel/toe.
 
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TheRedBlur said:
I wanna go when I get my car back up and running, prolly next summer. I wanna learn how to heel/toe.
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I started using heel/toe in the last couple events. I wouldn't say I'm very good at it, yet. But, you know when you do it right. The handling difference is unbelievable.
 

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yeah, I try, but like I wanna perfect it safely. plus I want to get a heel toe kit brad sells, I figures that'll help a lot.
 
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