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IAB or IAC

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90bluegt

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Guys -
I have finally been driving my stang around. Just a few days ago I noticed my car not making as much power. Basically before I could if I was in driving in 1st and punched it, it would kick sideways i'd hit second and then slide for about 50 more feet. Well now it won't even break the tire loose doing the same thing. I also noticed the idle was slightly higher, idle was at about 650 before now with these issues it's around 850 to 900 and it doesn't pickup nearly as quickly (rev as fast). It was also surging like crazy, I cleaned the IAB or IAC (which ever you call it) again and now it's not surging and the idle is just about right (i messed with timing thinking I didn't fully tighten down the nut, need to fix this back to what it was before).
Would the IAB cause the performance issues, if it were stuck open or slightly open for some reason? I pulled the codes and there's nothing other than codes 85, 94 and 44. Those were all there before this started happening.
I don't get it... any thoughts?

Thanks in advanced...
 

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Have you tried pulling the codes yet?

http://www.troublecodes.net/Ford/
 

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There are no WOT (Wide Open Throttle) performance issues associated with the IAB. There are lots of idle & low speed problems that have the IAB as part of the puzzle.

Codes 94 & 44 - AIR system inoperative - Air Injection. Check vacuum lines for leaks, & cracks. Disconnect the big hose from smog pump: with the engine running you should feel air output. Reconnect the smog pump hose & apply vacuum to the first vacuum controlled valve: Its purpose is to either dump the pump's output to the atmosphere or pass it to the next valve. The next vacuum controlled valve directs the air to either the cylinder heads when the engine is cold or to the catalytic converter when the engine is warm. Disconnect the big hoses from the back side of the vacuum controlled valve and start the engine. Apply vacuum to the valve and see if the airflow changes from one hose to the next.
The two electrical controlled vacuum valves mounted on the rear of the passenger side wheelwell turn the vacuum on & off under computer control. Check to see that both valves have +12 volts on the red wire. Then ground the white/red wire and the first solenoid should open and pass vacuum. Do the same thing to the light green/black wire on the second solenoid and it should open and pass vacuum.

Remember that the computer does not source power for any actuator or relay, but provides the ground necessary to complete the circuit. That means one side of the circuit will always be hot, and the other side will go to ground or below 1 volt as the computer switches on that circuit.

The computer provides the ground to complete the circuit to power the solenoid valve that turns the vacuum on or off. The computer is located under the passenger side kick panel. Remove the kick panel & the cover over the computer wiring connector pins. Check Pin 38 Solenoid valve #1 that provides vacuum to the first Thermactor control valve for a switch from 12-14 volts to 1 volt or less. Do the same with pin 32 solenoid valve #2 that provides vacuum to the second Thermactor control valve. Starting the engine with the computer jumpered to self test mode will cause all the actuators to toggle on and off. If after doing this and you see no switching of the voltage on and off, you can start testing the wiring for shorts to ground and broken wiring. An Ohm check to ground with the computer connector disconnected & the solenoid valves disconnected should show open circuit between the pin 32 and ground and again on pin 38 and ground. In like manner, there should be less than 1 ohm between pin 32 and solenoid valve #2 and pin 38 & Solenoid valve #1.

If after checking the resistance of the wiring & you are sure that there are no wiring faults, start looking at the solenoid valves. If you disconnect them, you can jumper power & ground to them to verify operation. Power & ground supplied should turn on the vacuum flow, remove either one and the vacuum should stop flowing.
See the following website for some help from Tmoss (diagram designer) & Stang&2Birds (website host)

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/fuel-alt-links-ign-ac.gif

http://www.veryuseful.com/mustang/tech/engine/images/88-91eecPinout.gif


Code 85 - CANP solenoid - The Carbon Canister solenoid is inoperative. Check vacuum lines for leaks and cracks. Check electrical wiring for loose connections, damaged wiring and insulation. Check solenoid valve operation by grounding the gray/yellow wire to the solenoid and blowing through it.
The computer provides the ground for the solenoid. The red wire to the solenoid is always energized any time the ignition switch is in the run position.

Charcoal canister plumbing - one 3/8" tube from the bottom of the upper manifold to the rubber hose. Rubber hose connects to one side of the canister solenoid valve. Other side of the solenoid valve connects to one side of the canister. The other side of the canister connects to a rubber hose that connects to a line that goes all the way back to the gas tank. There is an electrical connector coming from the passenger side injector harness near #1 injector that plugs into the canister solenoid valve. It's purpose is to vent the gas tank. The solenoid valve opens at cruse to provide some extra fuel.

It does not weigh but a pound or so and helps richen up the cruse mixture. It draws no HP & keeps the car from smelling like gasoline in a closed garage. So with all these good things and no bad ones, why not hook it up & use it?
 
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I listed the codes that the car pulled.

jrichker - if i remember correctly the computer dictates if the IAB is open or closed. If the IAB is stuck open, wouldn't more air enter the engine because it's open thus causing the higher idle and if you put your foot to the floor then the throttle body is open and the IAB is open causing a lean condition because granted it's not much more air, but some. I don't know just thoughts, if you don't think it is then i'll look down another avenue.

Thanks for the input..
 
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Update - still having the same issue. I think i'm going to replace the IAB. Also, just took off the cap and pulled the rotor out. It basically fell apart in my hand while looking at it. Also, lots of corrosion on the inside terminals and the rotor. Need to replace it now anyways.

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90bluegt said:
Update - still having the same issue. I think i'm going to replace the IAB. Also, just took off the cap and pulled the rotor out. It basically fell apart in my hand while looking at it. Also, lots of corrosion on the inside terminals and the rotor. Need to replace it now anyways.

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I would start there!
 

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90bluegt said:
I listed the codes that the car pulled.

jrichker - if i remember correctly the computer dictates if the IAB is open or closed. If the IAB is stuck open, wouldn't more air enter the engine because it's open thus causing the higher idle and if you put your foot to the floor then the throttle body is open and the IAB is open causing a lean condition because granted it's not much more air, but some. I don't know just thoughts, if you don't think it is then i'll look down another avenue.

Thanks for the input..
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The airflow through the IAB flows through the MAF. That means the computer has aready taken that airflow into consideration. It does not matter that air gets to the intake ports past the thottle butteryfly or though the IAB.
 
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