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fast97gt

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well not that kind of stoked, but i bought a 2002 pi motor out of crown vic with 84k on the clock for $750. now that said im putting in my 97gt to replace the 220k mile npi, ive done a pi to a npi swap before in a 00gt and no problems; but im assuming itll be the same swap theoreticly rite? i mean this time im goin from a romeo to a remeo, the only difference being the new 1 is pi motor. i plan on checking the time sets and highly considering on replacing them. now when i did the other swap i dint have it tuned and it ran perfectly, i hope that i wont have to with this one, i know ill have run my fuel rails, coil packs, and wires and etc. so on so on. so if theres anything im missing let me know thanks guys.
 
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ninjastang125

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Are you sure its a p.i. motor? I thought the big body fords didnt get the p.i. heads until 03/04 i could be wrong though.
 
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you need to check the motor out , it might not be a PI motor , could be but only way to tell is look at the intake and or the cylinder heads
 
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+1 the heads should be stamped p.i. somewhere
 

fast97gt

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Well I was wrong, its a 05 crown vic with 30k on the reman motor, got to hear it run, and its out of an intercepter, which probably don't mean much. It has all the stickers and badges on the engine, the sticker that catchs my attention is the 1 that say 46pol the has a barcode under it. Does anyone have any info.as if these engines differ from a "normal" pi engine?
 

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does any one have any ideas, i found it interesting that it was drive by wire instead of t/c control. but im not using the intake or trottle body so i dont have to worry bout converting it. im gonna use the pi intake i have off a 2003 pi motor and the professianol products tb and upper plenum. anybody have any other suggestions?
 

wmburns

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fast97gt said:
Well I was wrong, its a 05 crown vic with 30k on the reman motor, got to hear it run, and its out of an intercepter, which probably don't mean much. It has all the stickers and badges on the engine, the sticker that catchs my attention is the 1 that say 46pol the has a barcode under it. Does anyone have any info.as if these engines differ from a "normal" pi engine?
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the 46pol means "police". The major difference is the addition of an water/oil heat exchanger on the side of the block. Remove for a Mustang application. Besides, they leak all too often.

The cams, pistons, rods, and heads are the same.

I believe while the TB is different with the 2005 CV, the intake manifold is the same.

There will be knock sensors and a cylinder head temperature sensors that will not be needed in the Mustang application. Remove or leave as you see fit.

I would be concerned about buying any motor from a police car. Consider they spend a great deal of time idling. Mileage is not a good indication of the actual wear on the motor. The good news is police fleet cars are generally well maintained.
 

fast97gt

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thanks for the input mr. burns i was thinking the same on the maintance thought, but on a good note i was able hear it run before it was removed from the car, no knocks or smoke even on start up which i was pleased with. but heck when the cars are retired form police fleet taxi companys use em and still run the balls off em even upwards of 250-300k miles tho
 
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fast97gt said:
thanks for the input mr. burns i was thinking the same on the maintance thought, but on a good note i was able hear it run before it was removed from the car, no knocks or smoke even on start up which i was pleased with. but heck when the cars are retired form police fleet taxi companys use em and still run the balls off em even upwards of 250-300k miles tho
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Those fleet taxis don't bring those engines to redline or modify them either. That engine you have has seen WOT consistantly on an everyday basis of its life if it was out of an interceptor. I would rebuild it. If it was a PI motor out of grannies car with 30K that would be different.
 

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MustangLife said:
Those fleet taxis don't bring those engines to redline or modify them either. That engine you have has seen WOT consistantly on an everyday basis of its life if it was out of an interceptor. I would rebuild it. If it was a PI motor out of grannies car with 30K that would be different.
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I go WOT almost every time I drive my car, should I rebuild my engine too? ...Just playing devil's advocate.

IMHO, if it has good compression in all cylinders and doesn’t have excessive oil consumption, then it's good to go.
 

fast97gt

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thats what i was thinkin ricky, when it was crunk before the removal i was rite there, never hesitated, stumbled, sputtered nothing, ran like a top and no smoke even on initial start up. but back to mustanglife, you have a valid point, but when have you ever seen a taxi company buy these cars new...never theyre retired cruisers and interceptors. and whats the difference between a mustang pi motor thats seen wot compaired to a cop car seeing wot, not much and how many miles are on some of these stangs. my npi has 220k+ miles, yea its wore out and smokes a lil bit when it sits and idles at a stop light. hell that motors seen way more wot-redline runs then any cop car will ever see.
 
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