Installing a kirkey seat

[CarMichael Angelo]

Yeah, someone else mentioned a 1.5 hour road trip in them though...makes me scratch my head.

Hmmm,...let's see what other stuff we get to s hitcan that's commonly installed on/done to a race/track car that's "pointless on a street car".

I still have a ragged, bloody ass from the battles lost over justification for extreme duty upper and lower CA's. So what do I have to lose.

It's common for people to ditch the AC, scrape off every inch of sound deadener, delete the back seat, dump the passenger seat, throw away the WW motor and mechanisms, get rid of the door reinforcement, front and rear bumpers, add 50/50 rear shocks,& 90/10's to the front in addition to countless other sacrifices to their dual purpose, limited use "street car", all in the search of free horsepower. All that "free horsepower" really ends up costing huge in the end,... as you end up w/ a car that went 13.00 (instead of 13.20) that now rattles, is noisy as hell, hotter than a mother er, and shocks your balls an inch lower every time you hit a bump.

To me it just starts you down the road to becoming disenchanted w/ your car, as it becomes more and more a track car (that you can only drive on Saturday an 1/8th/1/4 mile at a time, 4-5 times per outing, that you are trying to break) versus the street car that was a pleasure to drive 200 miles a night or more when it was 2/10th slower, still using up all of the "free horsepower".

And now that the car is missing all of the free stuff that makes it sooo much faster,..... it now becomes worth less to the next buyer, so in effect, I guess it really is free after all.

 

[Boosted92LX]

Yep. That would be me, personally i like them, stock fox seats are not the most ergonomic things on the planet. I drive my car alot, so by the end of the summer i will know if i hate them or not. Like sharad said, Randy Seward drove from new mexico to florida in one. He said his but was pretty sore, but 1800 miles in a cadillac and id be sore.

In my case, the reason i went with the kirkeys was because in my car, there is really nowhere else to remove weight. The heats not coming out, and im not gonna go at it with a hole saw, so the seats were an easy way to drop weight.

Well, I've been down that road. I drove around in a car with racing buckets, fire extinguisher, cage and no carpet, a/c, heat, defroster, NOTHING. Was it fast? Hell yeah. I was also 22-25 years old and didn't care about comfort. You'd have to hold me at gunpoint to drive that uncomfortable noisy pos now, LOL. A good friend of mine just sold an 89 gt after stripping it and hating it, I'm just trying to point out the problem before it happens. Mike seems to understand what I'm saying. If that's what you like though, more power to you dude. Rock on.

 

[mob]

I like my corbeau forza II's. Comfortable, light and pretty cheap. They are about the same weight as the kirkeys. At the time of me buying them a lot of people had kirkeys so I was trying to be different.

Also forgot to say, they have adapter brackets for the corbeaus that let them bolt up to the stock slider brackets.

Do you have pics of these in your car?

 

[hoopty5.0]

Well, I've been down that road. I drove around in a car with racing buckets, fire extinguisher, cage and no carpet, a/c, heat, defroster, NOTHING. Was it fast? Hell yeah. I was also 22-25 years old and didn't care about comfort. You'd have to hold me at gunpoint to drive that uncomfortable noisy pos now, LOL. A good friend of mine just sold an 89 gt after stripping it and hating it, I'm just trying to point out the problem before it happens. Mike seems to understand what I'm saying. If that's what you like though, more power to you dude. Rock on.

Sooo...When the car makes enough power that shaving .2 isn't an issue, I can add it all back in, right? Seems all the rage now is 700-1000 hp turbo motors with P/S, A/C, and 2" of Fat Mat. That seems to be a fad I could definitely get into though

I just turned 25 and realized long ago the car rides like a tank and no A/C suuuuuucks. Still love the manual rack and no power steering fluid everywhere.

 

[CarMichael Angelo]

Sooo...When the car makes enough power that shaving .2 isn't an issue, I can add it all back in, right? Seems all the rage now is 700-1000 hp turbo motors with P/S, A/C, and 2" of Fat Mat. That seems to be a fad I could definitely get into though

I just turned 25 and realized long ago the car rides like a tank and no A/C suuuuuucks. Still love the manual rack and no power steering fluid everywhere.

The power potential of your engine N/A is probably what?....400?...450? Currently, if that's the case, conventional HP/speed calculator puts a car making 450 FWHP weighing 3000 lbs tripping the lights at 11 OH. If it weighs 3400 lbs, it only requires 50 more HP to accomplish the same. Did you decide to leave it LowC and throw Fred Flintstones' turbo on it? Are you gonna? (even w/ a turbo made in this century?) Plan for 700.00 FWHP to go 9.50's

I think you plan to bracket race right? Does the track pay you more to go faster? If it doesn't,..why bother?

Everybody always fixates on the "every 100 lbs that save a .10", but it only takes 15 HP to carry that 100 lbs.

 

[hoopty5.0]

and throw Fred Flintstones' turbo on it?

LOL, no not that one anymore.

I think you plan to bracket race right? Does the track pay you more to go faster? If it doesn't,..why bother?

Everybody always fixates on the "every 100 lbs that save a .10", but it only takes 15 HP to carry that 100 lbs.

I was mostly being facetious. For cars that make 350 horsepower and are dead set on breaking the 12 second barrier yes, gut it if you feel like that's all you can do to make it faster in place of adding more power.

If my car makes 700 hp when it's all said and done, I couldn't care less how much it weighs. That sh it's gonna move faster than I can ever hope to handle on the track, much less the street.

 

[90lxcoupe]

Just an update on this, two trips to the track, driving the car 1.5-2 hours each way to the track, i still like these seats. I didnt wake up sore the next day, they didnt make my back hurt at all. One of those times my girlfriend came with me to the track, she didnt complain about the seats at all.

I can tell you that after one drive to the track after i took the sound deadening out, i wanted it back in the car, i dont want my stock seats back. I dont keep anything on this car that will make it miserable just to be fast. The only complaint i have about these seats is that they block the drivers side quarter window, so looking over your left shoulder becomes impossible.

 

[fiveohwblow]

Alien snacks

 

[srtthis]

I like my corbeau forza II's. Comfortable, light and pretty cheap. They are about the same weight as the kirkeys. At the time of me buying them a lot of people had kirkeys so I was trying to be different.

Also forgot to say, they have adapter brackets for the corbeaus that let them bolt up to the stock slider brackets.

and by about the same you mean about double right?
forza II is 21lbs
kirkey is 11lbs

 

[bentley429isBAC]

No i dont mean double. Your really being a pain in the ass lately. Dont assume anything cause you have not a clue what your talking about. I have the 19 lbs forzas and the weight you read online for the kirkeys is without the cover.

 

[fiveohwblow]

 

[90lxcoupe]

The racecraft brackets are not light either

 

[srtthis]

No i dont mean double. Your really being a pain in the ass lately. Dont assume anything cause you have not a clue what your talking about. I have the 19 lbs forzas and the weight you read online for the kirkeys is without the cover.

Actually the 11 lb weight I posted is the weight of the seat and in the race car... As weighed with the same scale we weigh nitrous bottles. Didn't factor brackets since everyone runs different brackets and we have none... But I assumed the weight

 

[bentley429isBAC]

Post a pic of the seat with the cover on a scale showing 11 lbs then. Its more like 14 or more depending on the size of the kirkey your talking about.

 

[bentley429isBAC]

Here is the only pic i have Mob sorry it took so long. Don't get them though they are way to heavy.

 

[srtthis]

Next time we pull it out for some reason I will... It's kind of hard to get it out. Nothing is easy to do around the driver seat

Didn't say they were heavy btw... Just not "almost" the same weight as a kirkey

 

[bentley429isBAC]

Thats why weighing it will prove my point. They should be within 4 or 5 lbs of each other. Like I said I would have got kirkeys, but I was trying to be different.