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63bird390

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to reuse original 5.0 head bolts if they look good?
 

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Yes it is. They stretch. Visually you would probably never find anything wrong with them. So they all "look good".
It's a really bad idea considering a set of arps really isn't that expensive for a pushrod engine.
 
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also

i was told there torque to yeild fastners and are one time use. is this true then? i know this is probally stupid. ive used fe bolts over and over with no problems but those are big bolts.
 

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Ford says you can reuse them 3 times.
 

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You can get a set of ARP head bolts from summit for 40 bucks, for that kind of money there's no sense in taking any chances.
 
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Just get studs.
 

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63bird390 said:
i was told there torque to yeild fastners and are one time use. is this true then? i know this is probally stupid. ive used fe bolts over and over with no problems but those are big bolts.
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Torque to yield bolts were used in older 5.0L engines (85-under, in some models). Shop book says you can re-use them but for piece of mind buy some ARP's.


BTW: I reused mine in a 5.0L Ranger build and it is still holding up, but it is up to you.
 
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well

thanks for all the replies im on a tight junk yard build budget but 40 bucks aint bad. so then could arp bolts be used at a later date when this engine eventually needs a rebuild?
 

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Yes they can.
 

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63bird390 said:
thanks for all the replies im on a tight junk yard build budget but 40 bucks aint bad. so then could arp bolts be used at a later date when this engine eventually needs a rebuild?
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ARP bolts will last through 100 engine rebuilds or more probably. This is not a place to skimp on the 40 bucks. I have reused head bolts before, and I will never do so again. I torqued a set of stock heads down once, reusing the factory head bolts (not even torque to yield ones), and 2 of them stretched after a couple of head cycles, while another one broke entirely. End result was a blown head gasket and another engine rebuild.
 

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I also recommend against getting a set of cheap grade 8 head bolts. Several years ago I tried Performance Automotive Warehouse's house brand set and two started stretching right before 60lbs and another broke completely. They had grade 8 hash marks on top, but were definitely not grade 8. I got some ARPs after that. The finish quality is heaps better and the threads are much cleaner/smoother.

That was one of those learning experiences which taught me that spending more on good parts in the short run is usually cheaper in the long run.
 

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I read that you can reuse the stock bolts three times also, but I went on and bought some ARP bolts anyway. ARP has good customer service too, I had one bolt with no threads in my set; so they sent me another one for free.
 
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