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Myfirst67

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What is the good and the bad about long headers and short ones? Also so what is the best set of headers i can get for the cheaps price,or should i just go with ebay?
 

Jonstantine

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long tubes make more power
short tubes leave more clearance to work and more ground clearance

hooker is a cool name witha good reputation
i think you can get some pretty cheap headers from summit for like $80
 

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I have long tube flowtech's on my 67 with a 289 and a c4 and they fit nice and are good quality. I've had them for 3 years or so and they fit nice with the original type starter which I can remove without taking off the headers. I would reccomend them
 

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Jonstantine said:
long tubes make more power
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Actually, I recently found out this may not be true in a lot of cases... According to a recent Car Craft article (Dec. 2003) comparing headers, shortys actually made as much as 23 hp more than long tubes (+11hp at peak), and only sacrificed a max of 7 lb-ft of torque (and that was up to 3600rpm, at which point the shortys made more torque than long tubes). This may actually make shortys a better choice, especially for a traction limited car like our Mustangs.
 

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for the street you likely wont notice the difference between short and long tube headers, so pick a set that fits nice and looks good.
 

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best answer I heard yet, rbohm!
 

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DarkBuddha said:
Actually, I recently found out this may not be true in a lot of cases... According to a recent Car Craft article (Dec. 2003) comparing headers, shortys actually made as much as 23 hp more than long tubes (+11hp at peak), and only sacrificed a max of 7 lb-ft of torque (and that was up to 3600rpm, at which point the shortys made more torque than long tubes). This may actually make shortys a better choice, especially for a traction limited car like our Mustangs.
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Buddah why in the world would you read Chevy...err I mean Car Craft? J/K

I am also thinking of ditching my longtubes if I have fitment problems in the Mach once I drop the engine in. I noticed in that episode of "Rides" where they featured the Fastforward Fastback. that they used shorty's on the engine. Made me go hmmmmmmmm.

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66fasterback

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Well I asked my girlfriend & longer is better ! That's why she left. LOL
 

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DarkBuddha said:
Actually, I recently found out this may not be true in a lot of cases... According to a recent Car Craft article (Dec. 2003) comparing headers, shortys actually made as much as 23 hp more than long tubes (+11hp at peak), and only sacrificed a max of 7 lb-ft of torque (and that was up to 3600rpm, at which point the shortys made more torque than long tubes). This may actually make shortys a better choice, especially for a traction limited car like our Mustangs.
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thats really really interesting...

can you give me some more info on the article?
what kind of testing did they do, and on what kind of setups
 

DarkBuddha

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Jonstantine said:
thats really really interesting...

can you give me some more info on the article?
what kind of testing did they do, and on what kind of setups
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Here's a link to the original article, and they have dyno numbers too... http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/116_0312_test/index1.html
 

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66fasterback said:
Well I asked my girlfriend & longer is better ! That's why she left. LOL
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That's old macho belief revived by the "spammers". Only the insecure fall for it. Ask any woman; it's not how much you have, it's how you use it.

Could that be another "Timless Wisdom"?
 

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SuperDave said:
That's old macho belief revived by the "spammers". Only the insecure fall for it. Ask any woman; it's not how much you have, it's how you use it.

Could that be another "Timless Wisdom"?
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Thats what I keep tellin myself
 

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rbohm said:
for the street you likely wont notice the difference between short and long tube headers, so pick a set that fits nice and looks good.
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That's good advice!

My personal opinion is for the shortys because I like to run the cars lower to the ground.
 

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""Ask any woman; it's not how much you have, it's how you use it.""

That's just a thing women say to boost the ego of a man with a small pecker!
 
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