Just installed P.M.S!!

green_drop · Oct 6, 2004

Just installed PMS however I just want to mess with the idle. Is there way just to do that. Basically for now I just want my car stock settings but I want to be able to mess with the idle and tps and stuff. Is that possible? Also, can I control when the fan turns on to make the engine run cooler?

94TURBO5 O · Oct 6, 2004

One of the best investments you've made for your car. What are your mods?

VibrantRedGT · Oct 6, 2004

Yea you can do all of that. Rule number 1 in the manual says the TPS must be set at .93-98v. Run a code scanner to see if you have anything stored. If you don't own a code scanner then drive over to Auto Zone. They will do it for free. After everything is all clear then start playing with the PMS. The fan setting is as easy as entering the number you want. I would suggest 175 degrees. Go to www.stangtuning.com for more info. If you need a bracket so you can mount it in front of you then PM JR (94SC50).

green_drop · Oct 6, 2004

Here are my mods. Just trying to tune for N/A right now.

1995 Mustang GT Convert.

-Ford Motor sports 4.10 rearend gear
-BBK shorty equal length headers
-bassani x-pipe with cats
-mac 2.5 cat-back exhaust
-jegster upper and lower control arms
-kyb gas-a-just shocks and struts
-gms subframe connectors
-FMS aluminum driveshaft
-Tremec TKO 5-speed transmission
-mac cold air intake
-FMS 65mm Throttle body
-Trickflow upper and lower intake
-Nitrous Express 150 shot wet kit
-Nitrous Express purge kit
-275/40R17 nitto drag radials in back
-245/45r17 BFgoodrich comp T/A in front
-Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
-Aeromotive 255lph intank fuel pump
-Jacobs Fire control ignition system
-NGK spark plugs
-180 degree thermostat
-smog pump taken off
-Trickflow twisted wedge heads
-Gaskets port matched from heads to intake
-FMS Hardened push rods
-E-303 Cam
-Ford racing 1.6 roller rockers
-GMS 75mm mass air calib for 30lbs injectors
-Aeromotive adjustable fuel pressure regulator
-ford racing 30lbs injectors
-Ford racing roller timing chain

only 272rwhp. w/o nitrous. 360rwhp with nitrous with a NX 150hp wet shot.

SuperDust22 · Oct 6, 2004

I want some more info on these things. How hard are they to use. And what is the biggest benfit of them. What all can you do with them.

Dustin

VibrantRedGT · Oct 6, 2004

SuperDust22 said:
I want some more info on these things. How hard are they to use. And what is the biggest benfit of them. What all can you do with them.

Dustin

It's like a Tweecer except it doesn't require a laptop. It has a Nitendo looking hand held unit. See JR's posts for pics. www.andersonfordmotorsport.com sells them for $850+. Or you can find a deal like I got used. Mine was under $600 for the older style version. The biggest benefit if used correctly will solve some of the driveability issues associated with installing aftermarket parts on our cars.

green_drop · Oct 6, 2004

wow so I turned on the idel control to play with my idle and as soon as it is enabled the rpms shoot up to 1500, and I can't bring it down. Plus my IAC now making ticking sound so I don't know if I broke it. If I did that sux. 0 for 1 on the PMS.

94TURBO5 O · Oct 6, 2004

Wow learn something new about this thing everyday. I didn't know we could control the fan? That's an awesome feature, so how do we use it?

I just finished up this style bracket today and just took it for a night spin. It's mounted in a great spot here and is totally visible.

This is the version I'm sending Joe for his model.

94TURBO5 O · Oct 6, 2004

SuperDust22 said:
I want some more info on these things. How hard are they to use. And what is the biggest benfit of them. What all can you do with them.

Dustin

They are very easy to use and great tuning device. I've never felt my car more powerful than it is now!! I had no clue what a PMS was until Joe got his and started talking about them. I see them used for sale for like Joe said under $600 and I saw one go for $550 on stangtuning.com with a 3 bar map sensor included.

94GTLaserRC · Oct 6, 2004

Dont mean to do this, but I didnt want to start a new post for this.

JR...those white Gauges are nice and they are crystal clear...I want them, need them, gotta have them....Hook me up bro...Place, price, etc!!

RC

HoofnIt · Oct 6, 2004

RC-I love your new avatar!!!

green_drop · Oct 6, 2004

How come when I enable the idle control the rpms shoot up and I can't get them down???? Plus I don't see where to change when the fan comes on I just see that you can add fuel and timing according to water temp.

94TURBO5 O · Oct 6, 2004

green_drop said:
wow so I turned on the idel control to play with my idle and as soon as it is enabled the rpms shoot up to 1500, and I can't bring it down. Plus my IAC now making ticking sound so I don't know if I broke it. If I did that sux. 0 for 1 on the PMS.

Alot of people have that problem and some don't. I however do and I don't even turn it on. I'm -20 for fuel and -8 for timing in the idle menu. just ry using it off and play with fuel and timing to get it to idle the way you want.

94TURBO5 O · Oct 6, 2004

green_drop said:
How come when I enable the idle control the rpms shoot up and I can't get them down???? Plus I don't see where to change when the fan comes on I just see that you can add fuel and timing according to water temp.

mmm...I thought the same thing until Joe said something. Maybe he'll chime back in. Anyways I found this on another thread I answered to so I'll just paste it and hope it helps ya.
The key is tuning in a custom curve on your cars combo. The O4 PMS is the best mod ever since the blower install.
I've been tuning it for a week now and I believe I have it almost perfected! It takes awhile to get it all figured out on fuel and timing but the curve is what you want but I'm still learning myself.

Idle table:

Timing @ 10*
Start up Fuel @ -30

Idle Control: Off

P/T table:
I started with setting part throttle tables (LL,ML & HL) until I had no pinging and felt max power. I worked with the timing in LL first and drove around and did the ML next and HL last.

-----LL 2 3 4 ML 5 6 7 HL
2000 10 10 10 10 -5 -5 -10 -10 -10
2500 10 10 10 10 -5 -5 -10 -10 -10
3000 10 10 10 10 -5 -5 -10 -10 -10
3500 10 10 10 10 -5 -5 -10 -10 -10
4000 10 10 10 10 -5 -5 -10 -10 -10
4500 10 10 10 10 -5 -5 -10 -10 -10
5000 10 10 10 10 -5 -5 -10 -10 -10
5500 10 10 10 10 -5 -5 -10 -10 -10
6000 10 10 10 10 -5 -5 -10 -10 -10
6500 10 10 10 10 -5 -5 -10 -10 -10

WOT table:
I set timing next in here same as the PT table until I had max power and then no pinging.

3-4K -15*= (10* total timing)

4-5K -10*= (15* total timing)

5-7K -5* = (20* total timing)

I use Standalone : On @ 2200 RPM (automatically starts timing @ 25* total +/- what I added in the other menus.)

It took me over a week after install to get it tuned just right and it will change everyday b/c you pick up so much info and learn a lot about your car in the process.

wytstang · Oct 6, 2004

94SC50 your car at night is an ecstasy users dream come true. (no I don't use it either)

94GTLaserRC · Oct 7, 2004

I wanna know about those gauges...!!

Your PM's arent working!
RC

VibrantRedGT · Oct 7, 2004

MM&FF August 2004 has a write up on the PMS. They have a picture of the Fan Control screen. Says "On Temp" and "Off Temp." My car doesn't even have a motor so I'm not sure where this screen is. I'm relying on JR to become a professional at this so he can help me tune my car.

94TURBO5 O · Oct 7, 2004

94GTLaserRC said:
I wanna know about those gauges...!!

Your PM's arent working!
RC

Are you sure they're not going through? Pro Car Parts on ebay for $20, 2 years ago.

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