Long or Shortie Headers????

Wakes4Fun · Feb 6, 2007

Which one's should I get for my mostly stock 94 Mustang GT???? I don't have the money right now but I'm going to be buying some this spring and was wondering what the difference was between the two.

Will

95five-oh · Feb 6, 2007

Longtubes...shorty's don't make much diff. on a stock car.

trav_19 · Feb 6, 2007

long tubes are a good upgrade be careful if you plan on lowering your car you will have to do sone swering around stuff

SQUEEZE&STROKE · Feb 6, 2007

With longtubes you have to worry about emissions.

I ran shorty headers on my mid 11 sec car for about a year...changing to longtubes made more torque, but not a ton of power. Wasnt worth it for the pain of longtubes on a stockish car.

final5-0 · Feb 6, 2007

LT's give an advantage called scavenging.

In a nutshell ... that is about one exhaust pulse downstream being
able to pull another upstream pulse.

Shorty's are not long enough to take advantage of that kinda thing.

LT's do boost your torque low and mid range
however
They don't give as much of an advantage ... if any ... up top

As others said, LT's can be an issue for lowered Stangs

Look at enough NA dyno results with really nice torque curves
and
I'll bet you the biggest steak in Fort Worth, Texas ......

Over 75% of em will be runnin LT's

Grady

gcomfx.com · Feb 7, 2007

In my opinion you don't need headers yet for a stock car. Times in my signature are with the stock manifolds. Other mods will benefit you more. GEARS... pullies, tires, intake, etc.

I went with shorties for one main reason only... LT and AODE's =

5spd GT · Feb 7, 2007

I switched to longtubes over shorties, ported the Performer lower, and put a new 306 in and gained 1.3 mph at the track.

I do not contribute the majority of those gains to the longtubes.

Since (when you race) you are in the mid-upper rpms, the longtubes will not help you much in my opinion.

The only real positive I got for longtubes is they sound better (more performance sound) over shorties.

1 5/8th inch headers (shorty or not) flow plenty for a stock engine for sure, even h/c/i.

Longtube Pros: Better sound, slightly better torque at the bottom-mid half.

Longtube Cons: Non-emissions, harder to install, less ground clearance, more expensive, have to buy a matching mid-pipe, watch out for clutch cables (burning).

Shorty Pros: Cheaper, easier to install, more emissions compliant, relative same power in the racing rpm.

Shorty Cons: You are no longer in the 'bigger is better' crowd

Either way, in whatever you choose, you will get a nice sound! Longtubes have the better of the two in my opinion.

final5-0 · Feb 7, 2007

I really should have told you

IF

You were gonna do more than a couple of bolt ons

LT's would serve you better than shorty's

Then again ... most of us said ... at first

I'll be happy with just a little bit more power

That ole HP Bug bites so hard that ...........

The tiny gain gotten from most bolt ons ...............

Don't keep that itch from the bug at bay for all that long of a time

Good Luck with your Stang

Grady

go-stang5.0 · Feb 7, 2007

I currnetly have MAC equal length shorties...now that I dont have to take emissions I have considered LT's. On my car do you guyyz thing it is worth the hassle. I dont need more torque just hp (street tire daily driver/open track car...no drag racing). My motor setup is in the sig. Currently the car makes like 350 whp...

Or, sorry to hijack you post Wakes4fun.

5spd GT · Feb 8, 2007

It won't hurt you to get them. You do not "need" them. If you got some spare cash and want a different sound, go for it

RAD · Feb 8, 2007

What about mid lengths headers like bassani? They are longer then shortys but won,t scrape the ground. Anybody have/had them?

95Vert · Feb 8, 2007

^ interesting. I had never heard of them.

1TallMF · Feb 9, 2007

I'm pretty sure they only make mid-length headers for the 4.6L. I've never heard of them for a 5.0L. I think it maybe saves them from having to jack up the engine to fit longtubes in there.

final5-0 · Feb 9, 2007

RAD said:
What about mid lengths headers like bassani? They are longer then shortys but won,t scrape the ground. Anybody have/had them?

I can say for most who focus their Stangs around Street applications .....
you see Mac or BBK LT's as the dominant choice

Both of them hug the floor pan pretty tight

Now ... From pics I've seen ... the higher priced Race Style LT's like
Bassani hang pretty low

We all would wish for everything to be possible such as

That Great ...Low Stance Look
Maximum LT performance@entry level price
No interference with speed bumps and such

Like my Ole Granpaw used to say ...........

"I just don't see how you're gonna run all those coons up the same tree"

For me ... I choose the performance advantage of LT's
over
That Lowered Stance Look

Grady

Wakes4Fun · Feb 9, 2007

I think I'll be goign with the long tubes, but that won't be until I sell my Gixxer 750. That and I want it to warm up so I don't have to freeze to death trying to put them on.

95Vert · Feb 11, 2007

good choice!

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